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  1. #341
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    Ephier's Avatar
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    Does anyone know if ricochet can crit? I've hit for over 3k total damage with it once, non-crit, but want sure if it was possible to go higher.
    Both hits can crit and they crit individually.
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  2. #342
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    Haxetc's Avatar
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    Eastcoast Ping
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Massterchef View Post
    While 943 is nice, I've seen higher parses without GB. That's not to say it isn't possible to pull decent #'s with GB on but your average with it only on in the opener should be higher.
    Can you post a post Rapid Fire fix parse of someone doing more non GB? Also, how do so many people have problems moving with GB up? You have a whole second between attacks if you don't have a proc let alone if you do get a proc or have Rapid Fire up. Stop wanting to be babied. Seriously.
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  3. #343
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    Ryaz's Avatar
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Both hits can crit and they crit individually.
    Damn, that's a hard hitting ability on a single target then. I haven't seen it crit yet, but it'll be nice when it does.
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  4. #344
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    Blacksyd's Avatar
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    Katsu Bahn
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Haxetc View Post
    Can you post a post Rapid Fire fix parse of someone doing more non GB? Also, how do so many people have problems moving with GB up? You have a whole second between attacks if you don't have a proc let alone if you do get a proc or have Rapid Fire up. Stop wanting to be babied. Seriously.
    I think the problem is not the casting part of the skill but the fact that while loosing a little mobility you loose DPS too, the skill is a loose/loose so that why people complaining. I've absolutly no problem to cast while GB up in any fight (BLM v2.0 was far more immobile)
    The problem is pretty simple, did the loose of auto is compensate by the gain of 2 skills and the 20% damage up.
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    Katsu Bahn

  5. #345
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    Ephier's Avatar
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksyd View Post
    I think the problem is not the casting part of the skill but the fact that while loosing a little mobility you loose DPS too, the skill is a loose/loose so that why people complaining. I've absolutly no problem to cast while GB up in any fight (BLM v2.0 was far more immobile)
    The problem is pretty simple, did the loose of auto is compensate by the gain of 2 skills and the 20% damage up.
    Pretty much this. Its not that GB is not useable. By all means I love it, its just in a real fight outside of dummy application any interrupted casting you have to do destoys your DPS.
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  6. #346
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    Shhikasan's Avatar
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    Shika Naito
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Haxetc View Post
    Can you post a post Rapid Fire fix parse of someone doing more non GB? Also, how do so many people have problems moving with GB up? You have a whole second between attacks if you don't have a proc let alone if you do get a proc or have Rapid Fire up. Stop wanting to be babied. Seriously.
    its not about being babied. its the fact that having gb on its a no win trade off. feint doesn't proc our 50% proc and which a lot of these fights require movement you lost a chance to proc slug/clean if reload/quick reload are on cd. coupled the fact we don't get to use sprint like casters do as well as some of the lowest dmging moves outside ricochet. even the DEVS themselves said WM for brds is doing poorly and there brds are doing better then mch who do we need to get to tell you that you are wrong.

    DO you need yoshi to personally come to your house and say you are wrong is that what it has to take to get it through your head?
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  7. #347
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    Divebombs's Avatar
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    Krie Arda
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Has anyone found a better post-Rapid Fire fix parse than the full time Gauss one linked above? I am in fact curious.
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  8. #348
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    Eastcoast Ping
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shhikasan View Post
    its not about being babied. its the fact that having gb on its a no win trade off. feint doesn't proc our 50% proc and which a lot of these fights require movement you lost a chance to proc slug/clean if reload/quick reload are on cd. coupled the fact we don't get to use sprint like casters do as well as some of the lowest dmging moves outside ricochet. even the DEVS themselves said WM for brds is doing poorly and there brds are doing better then mch who do we need to get to tell you that you are wrong.

    DO you need yoshi to personally come to your house and say you are wrong is that what it has to take to get it through your head?
    Everyone reads it as WM is doing poorly or that it's not working as intended when in fact the post just stated that it's more difficult to play the job with it up and that pre 60 it's not really a DPS increase. Idk why people are using Feint lol. You can move and use normal MCH skils and abilities without any loss in DPS. Just because the vast majority of the player base is bad and you're using them as a standard doesn't make the job itself bad when played properly. I need someone of relevance to post beside you all that agrees with you and states a reason why the job is bad. But I highly doubt you will get that.
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  9. #349
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    Telepwnsauce's Avatar
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    Asclepius Windwalker
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    Coeurl
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Feint is used when you have to constantly move. There no reason not to have it, quelling strikes is useless. Currently our DPS is to low to pull off the tanks, so we might as well take another ability.
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  10. #350
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    Odowla Wetae
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    I agree with Hax here - GB is a complete waste of time after the rapidfire fix before 60 - but i have a feeling once you get Richochet that all changes. I've been trying a mix of the two on dungeons and its already pretty close in favor of non-GB. We'll see if 60 changes that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Telepwnsauce View Post
    Feint is used when you have to constantly move. There no reason not to have it, quelling strikes is useless. Currently our DPS is to low to pull off the tanks, so we might as well take another ability.
    Between Rapid fire, ammo, and procs, you really shouldnt have issues moving. Also, the cast times are quite short so aside from Ravana EX (NON burn phases, i might add) movement isnt that bad.
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    Last edited by Odowla; 07-02-2015 at 12:32 AM.

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