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    Kaelan Loire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    multiplicative, just like every other cooldown

    was doing ~800 dps full time gauss on all 4 alex fights. The GB change is nice.

    Ilevel i155 BTW
    whoa, 800 dps at i155? I do about 860 at i171... I thought the ilvl requirement for alex was 170?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivez View Post
    snip
    It's multiplicative. So 1.2 (IAD2) x 1.3 (GB) = 1.56 or a 56% damage increase. So the new GB is actually a 36% increase to damage.
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    Last edited by Ryaz; 07-08-2015 at 02:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    It's multiplicative. So 1.2 (IAD2) x 1.3* (GB) = 1.56 or a 56% damage increase. So the new GB is actually a 36% increase to damage.
    Psst. You added an extra 3.
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    I think people are over estimating the potency of auto attacks. Gauss barrel on has always out parsed gauss barrel off on all my tests. The 20%/30% damage increase is almost like the kiss of wasp/venom the ninja gets. Throw it on and it will increase your dps. It doesn't add 30% extra dps but it does do more than not having it on. I can see alternating it if you have to move around a lot.. Based on what I have seen, taking it off is a dps decrease, not taking movement into account of course.
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    Sayeth Steamwind
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    First of all, reading this topic really helped me a lot, so thanks to all.

    Actually i'm testing the damage after the last patch on a dummy, and i read a lot about the "Full Time GB".
    But, actually if without GB i'm doing around 670 + 350 (Split Shot + AA), with the GB i'm doing around 850 (Split Shot).
    Ofc this was an example as i tried this with every damage spell, the only difference i see is the possibility of using Ricochet and Gauss Round with GB.

    So, what i wonder, is really better to go full GB instead of using it at every Reload / Wildfire?
    Because the only big damage difference i see is with crits and ammunitions.

    Edit: I'm 170 ilvl, using gear that give me a total of 583 crit rate and 516 det.
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    Last edited by Sayeth; 07-07-2015 at 11:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayeth View Post

    Actually i'm testing the damage after the last patch on a dummy, and i read a lot about the "Full Time GB".
    But, actually if without GB i'm doing around 670 + 350 (Split Shot + AA), with the GB i'm doing around 850 (Split Shot).


    So, what i wonder, is really better to go full GB instead of using it at every Reload / Wildfire?
    Because the only big damage difference i see is with crits and ammunitions.

    Edit: I'm 170 ilvl, using gear that give me a total of 583 crit rate and 516 det.
    you are saying you get 350 DPS with AA? I haven't had the chance to login and test the new stuff out but i know they didn't change our auto attacks last night. In i177 gear with Ravex weapon i parsed 150 DPS with only auto attacks last night, so I'm not sure how you are getting 350 dps from auto attacks. Please stop spreading misinformation.

    edit: my 150 AA parse was 3 minutes. Did this so I could see how much auto attacks actually do out of our overall dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sevyn View Post
    you are saying you get 350 DPS with AA? I haven't had the chance to login and test the new stuff out but i know they didn't change our auto attacks last night. In i177 gear with Ravex weapon i parsed 150 DPS with only auto attacks last night, so I'm not sure how you are getting 350 dps from auto attacks. Please stop spreading misinformation.

    edit: my 150 AA parse was 3 minutes. Did this so I could see how much auto attacks actually do out of our overall dps.

    Wrote the numbers as i saw them on the dummy, it's not misinformation.

     The striking dummy takes 637 damage.
    You hit the striking dummy for 345 damage

    From the battle log :\
    p.s. never talked about DPS, just talking about the damage.
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    Last edited by Sayeth; 07-07-2015 at 11:54 PM.

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    I wasn't trying to parse damage as such there as I was seeing if it should be kept up at all times.

    If everything is on cooldown and you only have reload and main combo then no it is best to take it off.

    I don't think I need to get to 60 to see how clear that is
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivez View Post
    I don't think I need to get to 60 to see how clear that is
    I would highly recommend it.
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    Rivez Skydancer
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    Mr Sayeth previously posted who is a level 60 was stating the same thing I was only with higher numbers.

    It seems that adding more stats to to percentages doesn't change percentages in maths. How odd.
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    Last edited by Rivez; 07-07-2015 at 11:55 PM.

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