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  1. #321
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    Cascadi's Avatar
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    Drowned Wednesday
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    Leviathan
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by arctic View Post
    Going over the opening rotation on the guide, is there a reason Gauss Barrel isn't used before the buffs? I'm probably wrong and these super math reason behind it, but it just seems like a waste of buff time putting up gauss right after you pop the buffs.
    Using it before the buffs and using it after the buffs results in an average potency difference of 200 over 90 seconds in favor of Gauss Barrel being used during the opener, it's very minor actually. This difference comes from the extra auto attacks you can get in before casting Gauss Barrel, whereas if you had Gauss Barrel at the start, you'd be losing out on those extra auto attacks. The reason why I included hard casting Gauss Barrel is because you're going to have to do that every time with your buffs active before Wildfire is used.

    EDIT: Actually, using Gauss Barrel pre-pull and following it up with Gauss Round right at the start results in higher damage, thanks for the idea!
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    Last edited by Cascadi; 07-01-2015 at 07:03 AM.

  2. #322
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    Excel Kobayashi
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    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cascadi View Post
    Using it before the buffs and using it after the buffs results in an average potency difference of 200 over 90 seconds in favor of Gauss Barrel being used during the opener, it's very minor actually. This difference comes from the extra auto attacks you can get in before casting Gauss Barrel, whereas if you had Gauss Barrel at the start, you'd be losing out on those extra auto attacks. The reason why I included hard casting Gauss Barrel is because you're going to have to do that every time with your buffs active before Wildfire is used.
    Thanks for the explanation!
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    Glory to Mankind

  3. #323
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    Divebombs's Avatar
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    Krie Arda
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 90
    So is this new rotation still on par with Bard or does the Rapid Fire fix ruin everything and make this class garbage again? Given that SE has said at the same time that they don't want to make balance changes until after Alexander, I'm kind of losing hope here.
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  4. #324
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    Torunya's Avatar
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    Lindis Hrafnvandrar
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 80
    The job has been out for what, almost 2 weeks now? With a little patience I'm sure the changes our job needs will present themselves eventually. ^^ I don't take the SE devs for blind ignorants. Let's stay vigilant!
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  5. #325
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    Krie Arda
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Torunya View Post
    The job has been out for what, almost 2 weeks now? With a little patience I'm sure the changes our job needs will present themselves eventually. ^^ I don't take the SE devs for blind ignorants. Let's stay vigilant!
    They're saying they're not changing anything until after Alexander feedback. As is, MCH is being refused from Party Finder groups completely. There's no reason they won't be refused from Alexander groups too at this rate.
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  6. #326
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    KeluBehemoth's Avatar
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    Kelu Euron
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Gauss barrel can no longer be equipped with rapid fire. This rotation is now irrelevant. Job is completely destroyed.
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  7. #327
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    The Gauss fix really does kind of suck. Without Gauss, the only real abilities we have to weave in outside of that buff phase are Head Graze, Blank and Quick Reload. Having Gauss around and Ricochet in there helped a bit with the monotony of waiting on a split shot proc. Not sure why they decided to lock abilities behind an ability wall and then have that ability hurt us more than it helps us.
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  8. #328
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    Eastcoast Ping
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 70
    https://youtu.be/jMrpmvXjDMs

    Here you guys go. Full time Gauss Barrel. Please understand that Moving while being in a normal rotation is not hard to do. It just takes skill and practice. Please try to do your best at the job. I guarantee you Gauss Barrel isn't a DPS loss.
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  9. #329
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    Krie Arda
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Haxetc View Post
    https://youtu.be/jMrpmvXjDMs

    Here you guys go. Full time Gauss Barrel. Please understand that Moving while being in a normal rotation is not hard to do. It just takes skill and practice. Please try to do your best at the job. I guarantee you Gauss Barrel isn't a DPS loss.
    Impressive. Mind posting out your opener if it's not already one in this thread? It's a bit hard to tell from just watching the video.
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  10. #330
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    Shika Naito
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Haxetc View Post
    https://youtu.be/jMrpmvXjDMs

    Here you guys go. Full time Gauss Barrel. Please understand that Moving while being in a normal rotation is not hard to do. It just takes skill and practice. Please try to do your best at the job. I guarantee you Gauss Barrel isn't a DPS loss.
    post the parse of a no death ravana clear with and without gb on then come back to the forums. you know actual fights and not dummy numbers

    edit: CONVINCE ME IN RAVANA EX that It is better to have gb on whole time and not off(as I have done better with it off like it should be)
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    Last edited by Shhikasan; 07-01-2015 at 03:35 PM.

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