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  1. #251
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    SasakiNori's Avatar
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    Lanaya Valerian
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    That entire parse is lucky crits and procs. I would not use that as a base line.
    Wouldn't that apply to most parses posted recently?

    The parse I posted from Viola Endstasis has him sitting at ~1010 dps without Wildfire or the 977 dps parse from Zetsu Tai 2 pages back can be cherry picked with a insane proc or crit rate as well, since I doubt people will share parses with poor performance or bad luck.
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  2. #252
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    Ephier's Avatar
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SasakiNori View Post
    Wouldn't that apply to most parses posted recently?

    The parse I posted from Viola Endstasis has him sitting at ~1010 dps without Wildfire or the 977 dps parse from Zetsu Tai 2 pages back can be cherry picked with a insane proc or crit rate as well, since I doubt people will share parses with poor performance or bad luck.
    Which is why I want base line parses. From what I am currently seeing MCH DPS can fluctuate from 880~950 with out party food or pots. I am more interested seeing what the class can do at its worse rather than its best.
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  3. #253
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    Massterchef's Avatar
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    Zetsu Tei
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Cascadi View Post
    Hey, nice parse! Mind sharing what your opener was, and if that parse was with GB active or only active during burst? Also, was Heartbreak being used?
    GB only active during burst and no heartbreak.

    Rotation goes

    Raging strikes & Blood for blood
    Hotshot
    Hawks Eye & Hypercharge
    leadshot
    Rapidfire & Reload
    split shot
    Wildfire & Gauss barrel(In that order)
    Slug shot
    Head graze
    Split shot
    Reassemble
    Clean shot
    Ricochet & Gauss Round
    Slug shot
    Blank
    Cleanshot
    Gauss off & Quick Reload
    Splitshot
    Slugshot
    Wildfire goes off

    I've hit a 2k burst with that rotation but normally goes for 1600-1900


    Also 989 in 3.5 mins
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    Last edited by Massterchef; 07-01-2015 at 04:28 AM.

  4. #254
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    Telepwnsauce's Avatar
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    Asclepius Windwalker
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Massterchef View Post
    GB only active during burst

    Rotation goes

    Raging strikes & Blood for blood
    Hotshot
    Hawks Eye & Hypercharge
    leadshot
    Rapidfire & Reload
    split shot
    Gauss barrel & Wildfire
    Slugshot
    Head graze
    Split shot
    Reassemble
    Clean shot
    Ricochet & Gauss Round
    Slugshot
    Blank
    Cleanshot
    Gauss off & Quick Reload
    Splitshot
    Slugshot
    Wildfire goes off

    Nice i believe i mentioned GB should be on for Split - Slug - Split - Clean - Slug - Clean earlier and i think OP told me no, nice to see that the number back up my thoughts.
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  5. #255
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    Sevyn's Avatar
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    Sevyn Ishimael
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    Adamantoise
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    Machinist Lv 60
    I must be really unlucky then, because in most of my parses while my opening damage is fantastic same as everyone elses, afterwards my damage goes down the drain fast as i pray for procs until our burst comes back up. Confused as to how you guys are keeping your damage up there afterwards.
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  6. #256
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    SuzakuCMX's Avatar
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    Peach Parfait
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 70
    Are....people really being this ridiculous? As soon as a MCH gets semi-decent parses people say it's unrealistic and start comparing it to the 1300 DRGs (which I haven't seen) that are also unrealistic?
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

  7. #257
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    Ephier's Avatar
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    Are....people really being this ridiculous? As soon as a MCH gets semi-decent parses people say it's unrealistic and start comparing it to the 1300 DRGs (which I haven't seen) that are also unrealistic?
    Can you deny that the parse is cherry picked, full of lucky crits and procs? If so you not watching the same video I'm watching.
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  8. #258
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    Peach Parfait
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    Gilgamesh
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    Weaver Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Can you deny that the parse is cherry picked, full of lucky crits and procs? If so you not watching the same video I'm watching.
    Can you say that every other parse for every other class you've seen is not? People are only quoting the numbers from other people's parses but aren't actually showing videos or anything. Regardless this person is NOT the only one to get a MCH parse is the upper 900s.
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

  9. #259
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    Plumpy Mcduff
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Guys, guys... the issue is the inconsistently in the DPS.

    The RNG causes it to flux too severely. Can't you see?

    Yes, they're capable... but you need to be absolutely lucky. And when you're not, well the Job gets boring quick (1-1-1-1-1-1-1...) or it makes GB too fickle (which I don't think it should be that fickle) which' poor design.

    If they give us more ammo (QR>15/R>45) or up Split Shot proc chance to 75%, that would almost entirely fix the Job.

    It'd fix everything except for MP/TP regeneration's being turret-gated & the blandness of the debuff-mechanisms (e.g. Dismantle/Rend Mind.

    Adjusting the power-curves for Split-Slug-Clean (and their proc's) slightly would help too but it's less essential if being granted more ammunition.
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    Last edited by PlumpyMcduff; 06-30-2015 at 03:07 AM.

  10. #260
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    Ephier's Avatar
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by PlumpyMcduff View Post
    Guys, guys... the issue is the inconsistently in the DPS--the RNG causes it to flux too severely. Can't you see?

    Yes, they're capable... but you need to be absolutely lucky. And when you're not, well the Job gets boring quick (1-1-1-1-1-1-1...) which' poor design.

    If they give us more ammo (QR>15/R>45) or up Split Shot proc chance to 75%, that would almost entirely fix the Job.
    ^ point I am trying to make. People posting lucky parses showing what the class can do at peak instead of posting what their "normal" DPS is. This gives people inflated idea of what the class can actually do when in reality you have to be quite lucky to pull that off.
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