How is BLM in new expansion?

[Aikaal]

I would consider if I was doing this Ex with 1 Tank and 1 Healer (It's been done) and with a comp like that, everybody's DPS would be higher anyways. No with 4 DPS, I am not taking the risk. Risking to lose your cast to respect mechanics is still a safer way to clear and should be done like that.

If people think the solution to fix broken mechanics on a job is to ignore mechanics. This is another argument not to bring you into progression and leave you behind with your BLM. You can get away with farm content but the question here is progression and in progression you were hitting those mobs. If you weren't, you were a danger to your group.

Well, you shouldn't be getting stacks even if you were staying at the boss the entire time. Hell, a bard can easily solo those blue butterflies.

*should* is the keyword. In progression, there is no should. You respect mechanics period.

[OneWingedSora]

I would consider if I was doing this Ex with 1 Tank and 1 Healer (It's been done) and with a comp like that, everybody's DPS would be higher anyways. No with 4 DPS, I am not taking the risk. Risking to lose your cast to respect mechanics is still a safer way to clear and should be done like that.

If people think the solution to fix broken mechanics on a job is to ignore mechanics. This is another argument not to bring you into progression and leave you behind with your BLM. You can get away with farm content but the question here is progression and in progression you were hitting those mobs. If you weren't, you were a danger to your group.

We do it with 3 tanks and 3 DPS sometimes, I always stay on the boss and the Moon Ganas only. Never had a problem.

[Malevicton]

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You're really twisting people's words around. We're not saying you should completely ignore mechanics; just to apply some situational awareness, and communicate with your group.

A blm can literally 2 shot the little blue ones. As long as your group knows what they're doing it's not a risk to trust them with those and call moon gana and boss for yourself. If your group is having trouble killing them, then sure help em out, but they really shouldn't be having any issues.

[Aikaal]

We do it with 3 tanks and 3 DPS sometimes, I always stay on the boss and the Moon Ganas only. Never had a problem.

All I'm hearing is that it's not progression so it has no value about BLM vs SMN in progression, I'm sorry.

@Zappa, I,m not twisting words. I'm pointing facts

[waifugenerator]

BLMs won't be "left behind" in progression. A BLM can use their 2.0 rotation for mobility and STILL pull ~750-900dps. They don't have to stand still the entire fight lol

[hallena]

BLMs won't be "left behind" in progression. A BLM can use their 2.0 rotation for mobility and STILL pull ~750-900dps. They don't have to stand still the entire fight lol

Or you could bring a summoner who barely lose any damage on the move while also having more aoe and utility

[OneWingedSora]

All I'm hearing is that it's not progression so it has no value about BLM vs SMN in progression, I'm sorry.

@Zappa, I,m not twisting words. I'm pointing facts

Except our first clear was with 3 tanks and in 150-160 gear. This has nothing to do with progression, this just sounds like poor raid coordination to me.

[Aikaal]

Except our first clear was with 3 tanks and in 150-160 gear. This has nothing to do with progression, this just sounds like poor raid coordination to me.

So, Warrior do more DPS than Bards. Your argument of 3 tanks is not valid because Warriors are insane right now and they need to tune down Fell Cleave. I have friends from Odin, I know where you are coming from unfortunately. Endangering your raid by ignoring mechanics is a major weakness that nobody in progression wants. While Bane would be a DPS lost for the SMN if you don't get enough tick, needless to say dots are on the boss but you are damaging the adds and doing your job.

If this is what you think of progression you're free to do so. I would simply not pick you and discard you or anyone that thinks like you away picking that one guy that might do less damage than you but I know will respect the mechanics before his own benefits in progression. Farm content is a different story if you do crazy things like solo heal, solo tank 6 DPS. It's fair to assume ignoring adds on BLM won't matter in this scenario.

[OneWingedSora]

I have friends from Odin, I know where you are coming from unfortunately.

I have no idea what you mean by that.

Endangering your raid by ignoring mechanics is a major weakness that nobody in progression wants.

Except it's not really endangering if my group has the DPS to do it alone ? Again, a bard can easily solo the blue butterflies. If your group is having problem dpsing the blue butterflies, they should work on their DPS. And that's not even mentioning healer's DPS.

[Aikaal]

I have no idea what you mean by that.



Except it's not really endangering if my group has the DPS to do it alone ? Again, a bard can easily solo the blue butterflies. If your group is having problem dpsing the blue butterflies, they should work on their DPS. And that's not even mentioning healer's DPS.

That's cute.

Except you are putting more pressure on your group for your own gain when you could DPS the adds. In farm groups, I tend to target that one add melees aren't on and I wasn't missing my spells at all while respecting mechanics. But on progression when I was clearing the first time, I was taking the bullet but it was a clear. My numbers weren't super but the goal was to clear.

This kind of behavior to me is toxic in a progression environment. "I am better because I pull big numbers" meanwhile, the true heroes are those other players that work for you greed. This has no place in progression.

Would you Apoc the tank is needed when you're at your RS and doing your 6 Fire IVs? Because if you do you're bound to lose damage somewhere until we get the Spell Speed for it. I would but I'd lose damage. I figure you wouldn't and make it harder for your healers and tanks.