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  1. #101
    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    I agree. Like I said in another thread, this game is obviously designed from the ground up for people who like both group play and solo play. If someone dislikes one of those two, they are not in the target audience. Asking a game company to suddenly change their game design to suit a different audience is ridiculous. People can always look around for other games if they feel this one doesn't offer you the experience they want. Or if they like it here then they should accept that the game isn't 100% custom made to their liking.
    That makes no sense. It is not like people want the element to be removed aka dungeons. It is that forcing people to do them advance is not very smart thing to do in a mmo. Options and play styles are key to a happy community.

    This game takes many steps forward, but it also takes a ton back when it comes to combat/force grouping and lack of PTR.
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  2. #102
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    Evy said above, it may be because this is an FF title, there are a lot more people who would rather be independent from group content.

    I'm one of those people too.

    1) I am a Square, Squaresoft, Squee fangirl first, last and always. I play XIV because it's FF, not because it's an MMO. I love FF content. I only ever buy a new version of Playstation, when a new FF title requires it for a new FF release.

    2) I cannot STAND having to depend on others; and; I can't stand putting others in a position to depend on me. You take care of yourself, I take care of myself; the Devil take the hind-most (yes, this is me in Reality too).

    It took me almost 2 years to finish the 2.0 + content through to Chrysalis because I hate group dungeoning. But. I love FF. So I soldiered on and finished, step by wincing Steps.

    Other MMO don't make you do this. SWTOR famously. You can finish every single story quest line with just your NPC companion. Need not involve others.

    But... I am not demanding a change. This game is what it is, it's too late to go back; I will just progress slowly... roadblock at the required cooperative play for a bit... and move on.
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  3. #103
    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    You are not alone, but it is also because I am disable that does not make me want to group as much. I like going at my own pace enjoying things, and story. I don't want others to depend on me because at times. I have to pause and wait. My LS is amazing and understanding with it and always want to help me. I just..don't enjoy that part of the game.

    This game offers so much more than just grouping. So why force it?
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    You are not alone, but it is also because I am disable that does not make me want to group as much. I like going at my own pace enjoying things, and story. I don't want others to depend on me because at times. I have to pause and wait. My LS is amazing and understanding with it and always want to help me. I just..don't enjoy that part of the game.

    This game offers so much more than just grouping. So why force it?
    Aww, wish you were on my server - I'd invite you to come not enjoy it with me ! My friend I play with understands how I feel and is very patient with me - makes a big difference, but still, I would just rather not have to do it.

    We run something and she's all "that was FUN" and I am like, "I'm so glad it's over "
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    You are not alone, but it is also because I am disable that does not make me want to group as much. I like going at my own pace enjoying things, and story. I don't want others to depend on me because at times. I have to pause and wait. My LS is amazing and understanding with it and always want to help me. I just..don't enjoy that part of the game.

    This game offers so much more than just grouping. So why force it?
    Because it's an MMO?. No matter how you look at it, it is a massive multiplayer online game. This game will never ever be a single player game ever.
    Sure it'd be nice to have, but when you signed up to an MMO you should have known exactly what you were getting into, so why complain?.
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadoka View Post
    Evy said above, it may be because this is an FF title, there are a lot more people who would rather be independent from group content.
    Because it is a FF title dungeons are part of the story.
    Name 1 FF title where you never have to enter a dungeon with your party to progress the story. Only difference here is that your party members are controlled by other players.
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    Last edited by Felis; 06-28-2015 at 08:39 AM.

  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikimaru View Post
    Because it's an MMO?. No matter how you look at it, it is a massive multiplayer online game. This game will never ever be a single player game ever.
    Sure it'd be nice to have, but when you signed up to an MMO you should have known exactly what you were getting into, so why complain?.
    A mmo does not mean force grouping.

    It is a virtual world with rpg elements. Raiding, Dungeons, are all elements of that world, but force to do it because it is a mmo is false, and never understood that line of thought. There are ways to work with others without having to group through crafting and market.

    That is just my two cents, as I am looking at is through eyes of a mud player, and watching the advancement of the rpg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orspeth View Post
    Aww, wish you were on my server - I'd invite you to come not enjoy it with me ! My friend I play with understands how I feel and is very patient with me - makes a big difference, but still, I would just rather not have to do it.

    We run something and she's all "that was FUN" and I am like, "I'm so glad it's over "
    Yup, just doing one dungeon drains me to the point I don't even want to keep playing. oh wells, pushing on through it lol.
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  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    A mmo does not mean force grouping.

    It is a virtual world with rpg elements. Raiding, Dungeons, are all elements of that world, but force to do it because it is a mmo is false, and never understood that line of thought. There are ways to work with others without having to group through crafting and market.

    That is just my two cents, as I am looking at is through eyes of a mud player, and watching the advancement of the rpg.
    Having to do dungeons for the story is not "forced" grouping.

    You want forced grouping go look at games where you have to group just to level.

    You can play this game just fine without doing the story, you just won't be able to do a damn thing in the expansion. And you can, you know, just make some friends and do it with them. No one is putting a lance to your face and making you do anything.
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    Yup, just doing one dungeon drains me to the point I don't even want to keep playing. oh wells, pushing on through it lol.
    i will resay what was said, it's not a solo game, if you want a solo experience into a mmorpg, you are totally missing the point of this sort of game. the Final Fantasy game franchise was always based on a group model, like said before by other than me, the only difference it's you don't control all the party member.

    if you don't like dungeon, grouping,.... why are you playing mmorpg??
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