Easiest dps right now

[Ogrumz]

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No, I quite understand what you are saying. What I am saying is every Dragoon is grossly overestimating how hard it is to accomplish any of that. Have you played DPS in any other MMO that has random procs that if not used correctly, result in dramatic DPS loss? Cause I can name 2 off the top of my head, one that has atleast 6 of the classes that are like that. I'm sorry if I offended you (or any dragoons, or monks, or anyone) by saying your DPS class is easy.

[Vodomir]

No, I quite understand what you are saying. What I am saying is every Dragoon is grossly overestimating how hard it is to accomplish any of that. Have you played DPS in any other MMO that has random procs that if not used correctly, result in dramatic DPS loss? Cause I can name 2 off the top of my head, one that has atleast 6 of the classes that are like that. I'm sorry if I offended you (or any dragoons, or monks, or anyone) by saying your DPS class is easy.

It's just that everyone and their dog is discussing job complexity in FFXIV and not in <insert your favorite MMO here>. I'm sorry, but what do other MMOs have to do with how difficult (or easy for that matter) DPS jobs in FFXIV are relative to each other? Besides using random procs (as in either use that proc or lose out on the addtional DPS it would have offered; it results in not using the proc, but not in losing out on a GCD; no random positioning forced upon you) is not exactly the same as a proc forcing you to be in a random position (and not being in the correct position is not only equal to losing out on bonus damage, but actually dropping you below what you would have achieved when just ignoring the proc and continuing with the next move; you essentially lose out on an entire GCD when hitting the skill from an incorrect position). You are merely comparing apples to oranges here. Btw. I have played other MMOs and I'm not saying the class is oh so f***ing complex, just suggesting you blatantly ignore the fact that dragooning got way more complex then it used to be and that it for sure is not the easiest DPS job in FFXIV.

[Pluvia]

It really is a personal opinion on all the classes for instance for me all the dps classes are easy as hell and I don't find maximizing any of them to be hard (but yes drg got annoying as hell not really hard per say just really annoying at times).

[Ogrumz]

Btw. I have played other MMOs and I'm not saying the class is oh so f***ing complex, just suggesting you blatantly ignore the fact that dragooning got way more complex then it used to be and that it for sure is not the easiest DPS job in FFXIV.

I am not ignoring anything. I just don't find it more complex. You are obviously offended, so I am just going to leave it at that. I find it easy, you don't. I don't find it complex, you do. Just how it is. Lets leave it at that so you can calm your hostility.

[Vodomir]

I am not ignoring anything. I just don't find it more complex. You are obviously offended, so I am just going to leave it at that. I find it easy, you don't. I don't find it complex, you do. Just how it is. Lets leave it at that so you can calm your hostility.

I do not find it complex or hard or anything the like. It's just more complex than prior to HW and more complex than handling positionals on a Monk (see, this is a relative term, something can be more complex than before but still be considered easy). So for you doubling up on positionals, making those new positionals absolutely random and adding a new ressource to be managed adds absolutely zero complexity over how the class played before?

[Ogrumz]

I do not find it complex or hard or anything the like. It's just more complex than prior to HW and more complex than handling positionals on a Monk (see, this is a relative term, something can be more complex than before but still be considered easy). So for you doubling up on positionals, making those new positionals absolutely random and adding a new ressource to be managed adds absolutely zero complexity over how the class played before?

Yes, cause I have played much, much, much much much (x100000000000000000000000000000000000000) more complex classes not only on FF, but on other MMOs. Astrologian alone is much more complex than dragoon will ever be for instance.

[Faltrask]

Nobody is calling DRG a hard class to play. Just many of the other DPS are now easier than DRG. I'm talking about DPSing ing a decent way.

Also Geirskogul spam can be tricky. You got one more thing to be aware of.

[Dervy]

No, I quite understand what you are saying. What I am saying is every Dragoon is grossly overestimating how hard it is to accomplish any of that. Have you played DPS in any other MMO that has random procs that if not used correctly, result in dramatic DPS loss? Cause I can name 2 off the top of my head, one that has atleast 6 of the classes that are like that. I'm sorry if I offended you (or any dragoons, or monks, or anyone) by saying your DPS class is easy.

Lets compare who's the more technical sportsmen, Tiger Woods or Floyd Mayweather? You can't make an objective comparison like that, as they're both sportsmen of two different sports.

Just because there are more complex jobs in another MMORPG, it DOES NOT invalidate the complexity of a Job in this MMORPG. We're not comparing World of Warcraft, Lineage II, DAoC, Warhammer or Everquest Classes to Final Fantasy XIV Jobs. We're distinguishing the complexities of Jobs within this game and only this game.

Astrologian alone is much more complex than dragoon will ever be for instance.

Okay? And your point is? This is a discussion between DPS Jobs, not Healers. Again, you can't compare the complexity of a Healer to that of a DPS. They have completely different responsibilities and need to pay attention to different mechanics in an end-game scenario.

[Pluvia]

Lets compare who's the more technical sportsmen, Tiger Woods or Floyd Mayweather? You can't make an objective comparison like that, as they're both sportsmen of two different sports.

Just because there are more complex jobs in another MMORPG, it DOES NOT invalidate the complexity of a Job in this MMORPG. We're not comparing World of Warcraft, Lineage II, DAoC, Warhammer or Everquest Classes to Final Fantasy XIV Jobs. We're distinguishing the complexities of Jobs within this game and only this game.



Okay? And your point is? This is a discussion between DPS Jobs, not Healers. Again, you can't compare the complexity of a Healer to that of a DPS. They have completely different responsibilities and need to pay attention to different mechanics in an end-game scenario.

DERVY WHEN DID YOU FANTASIA

[Ogrumz]

Lets compare who's the more technical sportsmen, Tiger Woods or Floyd Mayweather? You can't make an objective comparison like that, as they're both sportsmen of two different sports.

Okay? And your point is? This is a discussion between DPS Jobs, not Healers. Again, you can't compare the complexity of a Healer to that of a DPS. They have completely different responsibilities and need to pay attention to different mechanics in an end-game scenario.

My point is your class isn't some extremely hard to play thing that you need to get all hurt over someone pointing it out? There are several other DPS classes that have things that are 'just as hard' and 'just as annoying' and 'just as complex' as dragoon does. I don't find 2 random positionals adding complexity to a class.