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  1. #1
    Player
    Anonydort's Avatar
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    Dort Helper
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    Hyperion
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayuhra View Post
    How does Ninja play? Are there a ton of skills and keybinds? I have tiny hands.
    holy jebus, does it ever. I have to use three rows of 1-7, and that's only at 55. ninja is pretty bloated when it comes to buttons
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    VisRalis's Avatar
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    Kelvena Visralia
    World
    Belias
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Anonydort View Post
    holy jebus, does it ever. I have to use three rows of 1-7, and that's only at 55. ninja is pretty bloated when it comes to buttons
    The amount of active skills to put on hotbar feels pretty average (or less) to me.

    A few quality of life macros helps a long way to cut down on the buttons xd
    Goat/Invigorate in one button.
    Sneak/Trick attack with Death Blossom AOE (since sneak/trick is disabled unless in hidden status).
    Stuff like that.
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    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by VisRalis View Post
    The amount of active skills to put on hotbar feels pretty average (or less) to me.

    A few quality of life macros helps a long way to cut down on the buttons xd
    Goat/Invigorate in one button.
    Sneak/Trick attack with Death Blossom AOE (since sneak/trick is disabled unless in hidden status).
    Stuff like that.
    Why in the world would you put Goad and Invigorate on a macro together? They do two completely different things, and it would eliminate your ability to use them appropriately.
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    Skypirate's Avatar
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    Reading Rainbow
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60
    I was going to ask how Summoner was difficult(My summ is only 50) But I could see how Managing Aetherflow + Some new stack could be difficult. But it sounds Like you just Open With Tri-Disaster wait till Dreadworm Trance is up Pop all your buffs. Burst like a Mofo and extend the duration of your dots with Garuda-Egi. Finish with enkindle and Deathflare and Fester for a good amount of burst.

    Edit : And when that rotation isn't up go back to refreshing dots and spamming Ruin II.
    Do I have the gist of it?
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    Last edited by Skypirate; 07-01-2015 at 07:56 AM.
    Anyway, all of the elitism is unwarranted. It isn't as if everyone here is PVPing to compete for openworld Raid bosses or anything like that. Heck, most of us don't even pvp.
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    Pupuksu Kekeral
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 59
    Quote Originally Posted by Skypirate View Post
    I was going to ask how Summoner was difficult(My summ is only 50) But I could see how Managing Aetherflow + Some new stack could be difficult. But it sounds Like you just Open With Tri-Disaster wait till Dreadworm Trance is up Pop all your buffs. Burst like a Mofo and extend the duration of your dots with Garuda-Egi. Finish with enkindle and Deathflare and Fester for a good amount of burst.

    Edit : And when that rotation isn't up go back to refreshing dots and spamming Ruin II.
    Do I have the gist of it?
    I save Tri-Disaster for when I burn through all the stacks of aether.
    So it goes normal DoT casting, Fester, etc...once stacks burned, Aetherflow > RS > DT > Tri > Fester > Contagion > etc.

    Currently 59 and I have 58 gear. My DoTs tick for about 680-790 each time with that. If I threw in an Int pot and got a Balance...UGGGGNNHHH
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    Character
    Gaius Valerius
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Summoner is one of the easiest... Throw up your dots, use pet abilities, nuke(with aether abilities as well), monitor dots on targets and pet buffs, repeat. In fact, most fights are too quick to even get up a lot of dots in a group scenario so a lot of shit I feel somewhat useless in. Only time I feel like we can shine is when we fight a boss and there's movement. Our dots get their full durations on bosses and the moving mechanics allows us to do dmg while moving so it can be nice but, with the pets doing less damage then our dots, It feels weak as hell. When the hell are we going to see a game where a dev team makes the PETS Stronger then the player himself how EQ did it. That was incredible.

    These piss poor iterations of so called "pet" classes are just sad. Make the pets STRONG as hell, like the backbone of your damage for the class instead of the player doing most of the damage with the pet just being a meaningless dot.

    EQ - Pets incredibly strong in all 4 forms, player damage mediocre, player supplement's pets to be even better with summoning of items to increase pets potency, pet buffs, berserk buffs, more abilities to effect the pet - How it SHOULD be.
    Every game since then - Pet is weak as shit, player does more damage. NOT how a pet class should be.
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    Last edited by Rover1983; 07-02-2015 at 06:14 AM.
    Breakin' my barrs hans, breakin' my barrs

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    VisRalis's Avatar
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    Kelvena Visralia
    World
    Belias
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 62
    Because they're both TP skills and activate specifically?
    If you need TP, press it and you get 400TP from Invigorate. Goad won't activate because you need to have another party member targeted.
    If a party member needs TP, targeting them and using the macro will activate Goad (first in priority on macro) - just don't double press it.

    Usually if party is AOE-spamming, you end up pressing both after anyways so it's a nice way to save crossbar space.
    (KB users may prefer otherwise? I'm PS4)
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    Ricdeau Cyton
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 60
    Too much of a liability in my opinion. I mean most players are fairly spammy with their buttons in the first place, but you also have the fact that latency does some weird things to button presses and ability activation in this game. I wouldn't pair anything with Invigorate to reduce chances of accidental usage since it's such an important ability. However, if that works for you then carry on.
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    HighMarshal's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Chevonne Devereux
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 56
    I have been playing games like Neverwinter, Secret World, ESO and GW2 for the last few years, so I am not used to a lot of buttons if you are familiar with those games. What would be a good class/job for me. I do tend to play melee classes though there are exceptions like Secret World and I love my Warlock in Neverwinter.
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    Dervy Yakimi
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by HighMarshal View Post
    I am not used to a lot of buttons

    Quote Originally Posted by HighMarshal View Post
    I do tend to play melee classes

    Don't play Melee.
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