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    Player
    Ogrumz's Avatar
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    Rumz Hatexia
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    Faerie
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Vodomir View Post
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    No, I quite understand what you are saying. What I am saying is every Dragoon is grossly overestimating how hard it is to accomplish any of that. Have you played DPS in any other MMO that has random procs that if not used correctly, result in dramatic DPS loss? Cause I can name 2 off the top of my head, one that has atleast 6 of the classes that are like that. I'm sorry if I offended you (or any dragoons, or monks, or anyone) by saying your DPS class is easy.
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Shiva
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ogrumz View Post
    It is funny hearing dragoons saying they are complicated cause they got a couple positional abilities. Meanwhile, monk has had many for quite some time. :P
    The positionals are only one minor aspect really. Its a combination of doubling the amount of positioning, vastly increasing the potency loss for missing one, adding a new buff that needs to be maintained which is similar to greased lightning but more involved due to geirskogul, lenghtening the rotation and further increasing the already high amount of off GCDs.

    I really feel that the new drg is not comparable to the old playstyle.
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    Last edited by ChaozK; 06-26-2015 at 07:59 PM.

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    BilboTerminator's Avatar
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    Xeifer Hawkeye
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    Moogle
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ogrumz View Post
    It is funny hearing dragoons saying they are complicated cause they got a couple positional abilities. Meanwhile, monk has had many for quite some time. :P
    U are also funny, oh no w8 you just do not know how the class works xD
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    Waliel Hla
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Not to mention it's random which positional you get as a DRG.
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    Player Faltrask's Avatar
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    Faltrask Kvelertakk
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    Ragnarok
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    Nobody is calling DRG a hard class to play. Just many of the other DPS are now easier than DRG. I'm talking about DPSing ing a decent way.

    Also Geirskogul spam can be tricky. You got one more thing to be aware of.
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    Koyuki Tanaka
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    I also find SMN easy, but before HS.
    Now i don't really now what is the best use of Tri disaster on bosses, because we would always lose some dot potency when using it (unless all dots end at the same time, which is rare).
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    Last edited by Koyuki38; 06-26-2015 at 11:11 PM.

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    Krissey's Avatar
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    Krissey Cakes
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    Mateus
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    Ninja Lv 60
    ITT: Guy asks for advise on what class is easiest to play for DPS, but it gets shipwrecked by Dragoons needing to flex their e-peen and feel superior because they play a "hard" class. More at 11.

    Also, I don't have a dog in this fight, but an annoying feature for Ninja is Mudras (in general, so many button presses and combos and lag, bleach, not hard but definitely annoying, like buying reagents to use your buffs in WoW basically) then using your Ninjitsu for a Suiton to use a trick attack (positional move) only for the boss to swivel around and it cancels the bonus damage and effect! doh! That's very annoying!
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    Last edited by Krissey; 06-26-2015 at 11:24 PM.

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    Pluvia Zephyr
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Krissey View Post
    ITT: Guy asks for advise on what class is easiest to play for DPS, but it gets shipwrecked by Dragoons needing to flex their e-peen and feel superior because they play a "hard" class. More at 11.
    Did you read the thread?
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    Krissey Cakes
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    Mateus
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Pluvia View Post
    Did you read the thread?
    Every single post. From page 1 to page 5.

    The guy ended up deciding to stay Black Mage based on recommendations that it's essentially still "hit fire til mana is gone, hit ice to get it back" with a few more bells and whistles attached now.
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    Vodomir Daemaethor
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    Shiva
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Krissey View Post
    Also, I don't have a dog in this fight, but an annoying feature for Ninja is Mudras (in general, so many button presses and combos and lag, bleach, not hard but definitely annoying, like buying reagents to use your buffs in WoW basically) then using your Ninjitsu for a Suiton to use a trick attack (positional move) only for the boss to swivel around and it cancels the bonus damage and effect! doh! That's very annoying!
    Since when does "lag" classify as a mechanic? People playing in JP don't suffer from lag for example, so it's not due to class design. And bosses swiveling around and your Positional is screwed? Guess that applies to all classes that rely on positionals. Though I do agree that they should actually make it work the same way as ID and HT for Dragoons, just cancel the donus damage but still aply the effect when not hitting from the correct position.
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