The Monk Temple Reborn

[scx]

Here's a video of the updated opener @ 1.3k dps: https://youtu.be/OZJrgy91uVs

I'm i165 using dungeon gear + some law pieces, i180 weapon.

[juniglee]

I've got a question for the Monks here. Bear in mind I am currently still only Level 59.

Since I don't have Purification yet, I've just been blowing my Chakra stacks on Forbidden Chakra everytime I'm on the boss, as part of my opener. However, when you are forced with a minor downtime (ie. first boss of The Vault), where you can't attack, between Form Shift and building Chakra what are your priorities?

Personally, I have been building Chakra then trying to Form Shift to Coeurl (Stance II). Then when I know the boss is coming down again, I'll Form Shift once more to Raptor (Stance III) so I can re-open with Demolish. So for example, I'll do something like spam Meditate until the timer on my stance is at 1 second remaining or so, then Form Shift to move to the next form.

In those battles where the downtime is very short, would you focus on getting back to Raptor Form first, or building 5 stacks of chakra first? There will be situations where you can't prime both up, so which should be the priority?

[GageRage]

I've got a question for the Monks here. Snip

Priority is always Greased. You've got a chance to keep Greased III you focus on keeping it. It's your bread and butter and you'll lose more potency than you gain from FC or Purification. If I know I'm going to lose stacks due to mechanics I'll build up Chakra instead and try get back to Coeurl form.

[Zakard]

how well monk performe so far?i always been a monk but i start to think about rerolling dragoon.the mechanic of boss start to be pretty bad to monk since they always go away or mouve around like crazy and monk dps rely on a big ramp up so when you lose everything, its hard to ramp up and do good dps again.dragoon is a pretty bursty class so i have the feeling they performe more because of that.

[juniglee]

Priority is always Greased. You've got a chance to keep Greased III you focus on keeping it. It's your bread and butter and you'll lose more potency than you gain from FC or Purification. If I know I'm going to lose stacks due to mechanics I'll build up Chakra instead and try get back to Coeurl form.

Thanks! I'll continue to work on this then.

[ncx24]

been 60 for a few days, new skills are a let down for the most part, sure the intro changed a bit, also its not even complex (compared to goons) which is really dissapointing.. considering its a bit too easy... the rotation didnt change at all.. all you do now is use elixir field every 30s and shoulder tackle to dps, i dont see myself wanting to use meditation ever... considering if youre using it that means there is huge ass gaps in the fight and who the hell likes losing all their stacks just to get a 320 potency attack off and have to rebuild it all.... so if you want an honest opinion from a person who has been part of the first few groups who beat t13 the fastest in midgard, 1/5 of the skills are useful in straight up fights while i would personally only keep 2/5 and have hoped for better, the 2 being elixir field and change form feel free to inquire why i feel the way and i can give examples of how you wouldnt be able to use skills in previous raids (which i assume will be similar to how alex raids will work)

[Merielle]

been 60 for a few days, new skills are a let down for the most part, sure the intro changed a bit, also its not even complex (compared to goons) which is really dissapointing.. /snip

I wholeheartedly agree. The remaining three skills are hardly making up for any DPS loss incurred by the boss being unavailable to hit, especially given the Monk's long ramp up time compared to other DPS.

Did they even change our lvl 3 LB? Supposedly we still have Final Heaven, but I havent actually had a chance to use it so far so I do not know if they changed the animation.

[Genocide]

1/5 of the skills are useful in straight up fights while i would personally only keep 2/5 and have hoped for better, the 2 being elixir field and change form

I pretty much agree. Despite the lackluster abilities MNK received they are still doing great DPS from what I hear. I've been saying since forever that GL duration should be increased to at least 15s. It would give more leeway to new MNK players and solve GL falling off in tight openers.

As for chakra tweaking, the best idea I've heard is having each GL refresh provide 1 stack of chakra.

[Zamii]

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extending greased lightning wont help the underlying issue, if its falling off when a boss isnt invulnerable then your not pushing the class to its fullest potential, you simply cant balance classes around the mediocre players because then the top tier players will be gods on that class, so the best of the best start doing nothing but the one class and thats no fun for anyone.

also, the chakra system isnt designed for use in tank n spank fights, if anyone had gone into the new EX primals you should know exactly what im talking about, the ilvl 160 dungeons are just tank and spank, as you should expect out of regular farm dungeons

[Butcherboy]

I agree having meditation changes. I have to say I think that monks r either 2nd or 3rd place now I terms of dps. 3 possible changes to how we hai meditation. Gain 1 stack up to it 3 per gl repfresh, gain chakra similar to warrior wratch or hit meditation one time and gain 5 stacks.