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  1. #1801
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    Mike Fisticuffison
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    What's an optimal time to pop FC? Anytime during a dps race with all of your relevant buffs present?

    EDIT: Also, does Elixer Field benefit from DK? It REALLY looks like it doesn't but you never know.

    EDIT 2: Apparently for some aesthetically retarded reason, it does..I guess beams do blunt damage in this game.
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    Last edited by Phireblast; 06-21-2015 at 08:30 PM.

  2. #1802
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    NanashiNaito's Avatar
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    Nanashi Naito
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    anyone else feel like they should let you charge chakra faster outside of battle =(
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  3. #1803
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    Alistar Phoenix
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    An optimal time to pop FC would be when your buffs are up, as you won't be using it that much and it doesn't have a cool down
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  4. #1804
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    Aeliott Cadenza
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    Haaaa-DOUKEN!!! Best move in the game!

    Also, spamming Meditation between pulls is getting old quick, but I can live with it. The new GL timings however...bleh. Is it me or is it impossible to retain GL3 after using LB3?
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  5. #1805
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    Atiqa Craiger
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    What's the problem about GL timings now? Honest question, I don't understand...

    GL applies earlier than before, but that doesn't make you lose it easier, because you will reapply it earlier too... So it's exactly the same.

    Gonna be interesting to see the results of all jobs at 60. Going to take a while, since there have been changes to stats etc too. I wonder how MNK is holding up to the other jobs now... In a very specific fight where you have an advantage with Chakra stacks etc, I could see MNK being good, but looks like they will fall behind on a lot of fights.

    Elixir Field is a high potency attack with low CD, so that might give us more than I think, but that's a pretty bad way to make up for the other lackluster abilities.

    Players are already getting lower DPS with MNK on a dummy, because they parse too short fights, imagine all the arguments when MNK can't get high enough DPS on a dummy, because there are no downtime....
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  6. #1806
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    Aiyza Tenebrae
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    So far from what I read in thread, the best two uses for FC are if you are moving away from the boss and want to use it to help keep your stacks or as an opener with Demolish to get one GL. I really don't like how it's on the GCD but meh.

    But what about the opener from lvl 50? Is that still useful? I always used, and still using now, PB>Demolish>Snap>BfB>Snap>IR>>Twin>DK>Howling>ToD>Peak>Bootshine>TS>Demo. I make the GL3 but I just make it. If I had to move or anything, I wouldn't. My skill speed is 384 and before xpac, I remember I had quite a few seconds before it would even go down -_-
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  7. #1807
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craiger View Post
    What's the problem about GL timings now? Honest question, I don't understand.......
    If you used the lvl 50 opener, it's now easier for GL3 to fall off. So either monks need a different opener or more skill speed At 384 skill speed, I have one sec left before I get to the last skill of my opener to refresh GL3. Before xpac, I had a few seconds. Plus if you have to move away from boss or boss disappears, you now have less time to get back and refresh your GL. I guess that's where FC comes into play.
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  8. #1808
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    Atiqa Craiger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiyza View Post
    If you used the lvl 50 opener, it's now easier for GL3 to fall off. So either monks need a different opener or more skill speed At 384 skill speed, I have one sec left before I get to the last skill of my opener to refresh GL3. Before xpac, I had a few seconds. Plus if you have to move away from boss or boss disappears, you now have less time to get back and refresh your GL. I guess that's where FC comes into play.
    I haven't had any difference, but I haven't used it too many times in the expansion yet though...

    The opener is going to be different though... Since you wanna change form before the fight and use a Demo right at the start, then use PB. That will completely change how the timing works, so you got ages to reapply GL after PB.
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  9. #1809
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    [QUOTE=Craiger;3053064] GL applies earlier than before, but that doesn't make you lose it easier, because you will reapply it earlier too... So it's exactly the same.

    It does make you lose GL3 Stacks earlier because you gain the stack at the very start of the demolish animation, instead of at the end like how it use to be. That is why people are no longer able to pull off ToD after their pb opener. It's not all that bad, but I believe we will have to come up with the next optimal opener (probably starting with demolish)
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Ok I'm understand this. Due to GL being apply, time still ticking when ur in animation on skills. So the time it takes for u to do animation is the loss for GL. This the only simple logical explanation for this.
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