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  1. #81
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    ChaozK's Avatar
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Shiva
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Isn't mnk getting a hadouken that consumes their chakras and is 400 potency or something? Also isn't one of NIN's new abilities an oGCD that doubles the potency of their next weapon skill?
    The hadouken is the 220 pot off GCD called elixir field, the skill that consumes their stacks is tornado kick for 330 pot and the chakra skill's potency is not known yet. Both tornado kick and forbidden chakra wont be used frequently in their rotation because they require downtime. Leaving only elixier field as part of their new rotation.
    As far as the nin goes the wording of duality is weird, it might actually just give 100 extra pot because it doesnt benefit from combo-bonuses.
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  2. #82
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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by ChaozK View Post
    As far as the nin goes the wording of duality is weird, it might actually just give 100 extra pot because it doesnt benefit from combo-bonuses.
    Worst case, if that reading is correct, Spinning Edge is still 150 potency, so you would use it there. Of course, if that reading is correct then Duality would be worse than Mug, so. . .
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  3. #83
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    RicardHwind's Avatar
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    Below Average
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 80
    N0-one has mentioned the changes they're making to the jumps they mentioned in the live letter. iirc Yoshi said something about reducing the animation time for Jump especially. This would help greatly with BoTD (and not derping in aoes)
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  4. #84
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    the numbers are up and confirmed via various sources, looks like nothing changed from the e3 tooltips

    so
    H IDCF P TTTW repeating seems like the most popular thought right now; it feels sort of gross having to clip dis/ct at 5s+ seconds though

    it'll be interesting to see how a skillspeed stack could change the rotation up at least. with a 4th combo hit and with phleb/ht on 24s timers, dragoon TP consumption on average dropped a fair amount (from using probably the least TP of all the physical dps classes already)
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    Last edited by Aiurily; 06-19-2015 at 01:05 AM.

  5. #85
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    Leonus's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Kenrir Amnis
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Isn't mnk getting a hadouken that consumes their chakras and is 400 potency or something? Also isn't one of NIN's new abilities an oGCD that doubles the potency of their next weapon skill?
    The skill ninja is getting is pretty lackluster based on speculation right now. No one knows for sure. The biggest dps increase for nin is decreasing the number of 3 step mudra casts of huton.
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  6. #86
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 80
    I'm angry there appears to be no Crit/DET Gear, and we're stacking pieces with 50-70SS....

    We're gonna need to retouch the Rotation a bit more I'd say, because this will wreck BotD, Geirskogul and DoT ticks.
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    Last edited by Dervy; 06-19-2015 at 01:17 AM.

  7. #87
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    Akane Akashiya
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    Masamune
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    Archer Lv 50
    Ensures critical damage for first weaponskill used while Life Surge is active. Damage dealt will be absorbed as HP, up to 10% of maximum HP.
    Duration: 10s 50s cd

    they changed it from this

    Ensures critical damage for first non-magic action used while Life Surge is active. Damage dealt will be absorbed as HP, up to 10% of maximum HP.10s duration. 50s cd
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  8. #88
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    KairiLionheart's Avatar
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    Battou Jutsu
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    Gilgamesh
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Akashiya View Post
    Ensures critical damage for first weaponskill used while Life Surge is active. Damage dealt will be absorbed as HP, up to 10% of maximum HP.
    Duration: 10s 50s cd

    they changed it from this

    Ensures critical damage for first non-magic action used while Life Surge is active. Damage dealt will be absorbed as HP, up to 10% of maximum HP.10s duration. 50s cd
    Is Jump consider as weaponskill?
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  9. #89
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    Akane Akashiya
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    Masamune
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by KairiLionheart View Post
    Is Jump consider as weaponskill?
    No its not
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  10. #90
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    Thendiel Swansong
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    Adamantoise
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    Marauder Lv 70
    So that's the change. Seems like they explicitly didn't want people pairing Life Surge with Jump. At least that simplifies the theorycrafting.
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