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  1. #181
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    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Removing it from the hotbar does not force it to proc only one. Hotbars are just shortcuts keys lol. The game doesn't care if it's on the hot bar, in a macro, or used directly from the action menu, the mechanics are the same regardless.
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  2. #182
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    Nominous's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Nominous Lhant
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Cakey View Post
    So, I know how F&C/WT are both random. A friend of mine tried just removing F&C from his hotbar, making WT be the one to proc 100% of the time just for the ease of using it in his rotation. Is that viable?
    If it does work, I wouldn't imagine it'd be the 100% best thing to do. I mean, the fact that both of them had different positional requirements was a good thing to hear before knowing it was a 50/50 situation, because no matter what the fight called for, you could 4th combo without potency loss. It's not bad, even now. It's just kind of a weird design choice, when the combos could have just been actual 4th hits of Chaos and Full respectively.
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    Last edited by Nominous; 06-21-2015 at 11:08 PM.

  3. #183
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    Jroche44's Avatar
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    Pryor Halloroa
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    I was using fracture with phlebotomize. It seems that my cross bar is going to get cramped. Do you think fracture is something that I can live without? You don't have it listed with your cross class skills. Using the cross bar, this is going to be a mess. I am not good at switching between cross bars in battle. Either I am going to have to get better or squeeze out some skills I am so used to using in my rotation.
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  4. #184
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    Nominous Lhant
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jroche44 View Post
    Do you think fracture is something that I can live without?
    Depends on how much Skill Speed actually effects DoT skills now. It wasn't that great before, it was only useful in a handful of situations. Even now, our rotation would be a bit -too- packed with that added in.
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  5. #185
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Fracture will never be worth it. It's a 160 potency skill.
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  6. #186
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    Pryor Halloroa
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Fracture=gone
    Make room for battle litany and BotD
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  7. #187
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    Nominous Lhant
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Hey uhhh... how important is Det now? Can we just drop it entirely for SS and Crit?
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  8. #188
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    Thendiel Swansong
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    Adamantoise
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Am I the only one who thinks the procs aren't a big deal? Unlike with, e.g., BRD procs, this proc occurs at a completely predictable point in the rotation, so it's easy for me to pre-emptively focus all of my attention on my hotbar. I'm finding it easy now, and I've only been experiencing it for a few hours. After months of practice across dozens of challenging encounters, it's going to be a complete joke IMO. Hell, I think it's actually pretty fun. Let's at least give it a chance.
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    Last edited by Thendiel; 06-22-2015 at 12:47 AM.

  9. #189
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 80
    It's the potency hit that bothers me the most. The amount of RNG spinning bosses/mobs in this game is annoying as it is.

    100 Potency hit is fine for the amount of utility it brings, not nearly 190, 2/3s of it's total damage output. That's what is absurd to me.
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  10. #190
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    I have a feeling a lot of this moves for all 3 melee dpS mnk nin and drg were not properly tested. I have a feeling will get some patch works coming up. As my drg my 2nd job I play, it seems there r a lot of dilemma in terms of clipping and time lost.
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