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  1. #941
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    Leonus's Avatar
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    Kenrir Amnis
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    DWaD seems kind of underwhelming to me now if it applies the second attack without the bonus. It sucks I'm out if town till next weekend. I don't get to take advantage of early release. I really want to play with these abilities. I'm thinking we'll fall to 3rd in the melee dps ranks unfortunately... for some reason.

    Feels like drg and mnk got cooler toys for the expansion than we do.
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  2. #942
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    Akane Akashiya
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    Masamune
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    Armor Crush:
    Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
    160 when executed from a target's flank.
    Combo Action: Gust Slash
    Combo Potency: 220 (280 when executed from a target's flank)
    Combo Bonus: Extends Huton duration by 30s to a maximum of 70s
    thats from people on reddits links

    Dream within a dream is a potency of 100 each hit

    perfect dodge is now shade shift
    Create shadows that nullify damage up to 20% of your maximum hp lasts 20s 2min cd
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    Last edited by Akashiya; 06-19-2015 at 12:57 AM.

  3. #943
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    Florence Leduc
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    it's me or shade shift is a bit...meh.
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  4. #944
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    Senna Belizaire
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    manawall was also adjusted in the same way
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  5. #945
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    Kuroyasha Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    it's me or shade shift is a bit...meh.
    It's basically Naruto Kage Bunshin no Jutsu(shadow clone jutsu) xD
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  6. #946
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonus View Post
    DWaD seems kind of underwhelming to me now if it applies the second attack without the bonus. It sucks I'm out if town till next weekend. I don't get to take advantage of early release. I really want to play with these abilities. I'm thinking we'll fall to 3rd in the melee dps ranks unfortunately... for some reason.
    You're thinking of Duality. Dream Within a Dream is a 3 stage off gcd skill.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akashiya View Post

    Dream within a dream is a potency of 100 each hit

    perfect dodge is now shade shift
    Create shadows that nullify damage up to 20% of your maximum hp lasts 20s 2min cd
    Hmm, if DWD is a 3 stage oGCD.
    Did we just lose a 3-Mudra combination but replace it with another 3 stage attack?
    I guess it wasn't a bandaid fix after all, it was to make room for this attack.

    I'll take it though. 300 potency for 3 inputs instead of no damage (and the buff we get free from another attack).

    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    it's me or shade shift is a bit...meh.
    A bit. I might be with you.
    Perfect Dodge will be missed for the great moments it was useful.
    This new ability lasts 20s though, so that's pretty good.
    Not as dramatic maybe, but I'm sure it'll be used more.

    Also, I hope we get some cool shadow animation to go with it. Then I won't look back.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyasha View Post
    It's basically Naruto Kage Bunshin no Jutsu(shadow clone jutsu) xD
    Stop it.
    Final Fantasy had Bushin (English translation was mirage) since FFIV which came out in 1991.
    Then Kage Bushin for Final Fantasy came out in 1994 with FFVI, almost a decade (9 years) before the Naruto manga started.
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    Last edited by Allyrion; 06-19-2015 at 01:57 AM.

  7. #947
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    Ah, ok. Gonna take me a bit o get all the new abilities straight.
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  8. #948
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    Akane Akashiya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    You're thinking of Duality. Dream Within a Dream is a 3 stage off gcd skill.



    Hmm, if DWD is a 3 stage oGCD.
    Did we just lose a 3-Mudra combination but replace it with another 3 stage attack?
    I guess it wasn't a bandaid fix after all, it was to make room for this attack.

    I'll take it though. 300 potency for 3 inputs instead of no damage (and the buff we get free from another attack).



    A bit. I might be with you.
    Perfect Dodge will be missed for the great moments it was useful.
    This new ability lasts 20s though, so that's pretty good.
    Not as dramatic maybe, but I'm sure it'll be used more.

    Also, I hope we get some cool shadow animation to go with it. Then I won't look back.
    Only have to hit it once it looks like here is the full tooltip
    instant
    Delivers a threefold attack, each hit with a potency of 100.
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  9. #949
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    Florence Leduc
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    what bother me with shade shift is about the fact that it seems get positional, for make simple it will probably work only if we face the enemy (i do hope it not the case)
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  10. #950
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonus View Post
    Feels like drg and mnk got cooler toys for the expansion than we do.
    That to a degree its true, but MNK really wont change much outside of the opener.
    DRG will get a way more frustrating rotation tho.
    Most of NIN added on stuff are stand alone at least. Altho I admit they do look a bit lackluster.
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