The Ninja Superthread

[Aiurily]

Hmmm you did crit 13% on ninja vs 20% on dragoon, it's a big difference even taking into account battle litany. I'm quite sure when the parsers are updated and the dust has settled, the difference in dps between monk/nin/drg will be miniscule.

yeah, litany inflates the number a bit, along with life surge. the drg parse ended at 19% crit rate and my drg has higher crit rate stat as well (593 without food)

[Butcherboy]

So pretty much ninja is the strongest burst opener if all melee but the lowest when it comes to sustain? I figured with all the CD drg have they will be first.

[MrCookTM]

So pretty much ninja is the strongest burst opener if all melee but the lowest when it comes to sustain? I figured with all the CD drg have they will be first.

I think this will even out in fights with downtime, since Nin is still the least affected by it.

[Aiurily]

So pretty much ninja is the strongest burst opener if all melee but the lowest when it comes to sustain? I figured with all the CD drg have they will be first.

drg is a bit higher and more consistent

I think this will even out in fights with downtime, since Nin is still the least affected by it.

yep. this and their utility (goad, shadewalker, trick attack, smoke) is still there; 3/4 of those are raid dps increases

Have we even done storms eye parsing? i mean, it was like +30 DPS on i130.. what is it now? Thatatters cause in raid you dont need to self apply.

i think the dps increase should be around the same range, roughly 2%ish. +30 from not needed to use DE in 2.x sounds a bit high

[Odowla]

i think the dps increase should be around the same range, roughly 2%ish. +30 from not needed to use DE in 2.x sounds a bit high

Ninjas i know where going form 670 > 700ish when they got DE fed, but yeah might have been rng, but thats still +30

[Odowla]

Have we even done storms eye parsing? i mean, it was like +30 DPS on i130.. what is it now? Thatatters cause in raid you dont need to self apply.

[MrCookTM]

Have we even done storms eye parsing? i mean, it was like +30 DPS on i130.. what is it now? Thatatters cause in raid you dont need to self apply.

... unless your static is running a PLD/DRK tank setup, which is what my group does for 3.0... ;.(

[Dante_V]

Love the new moves. Haven't had to change my opener at all beyond a couple OGCD moves and armor crush keep the ninja on blast forever.

The positionals haven't bothered me at all and I actually like them. Although the aeolian positional can be a bit of a bigger on solo play but I have ways of dealing with that.

[Arkenne]

Aeolian for solo

Im at lvl 59 and my chocobo has about 13k hp... it can tank things hard D:
Its a good way to practice Shadewalker, so I suggest you use it as much as you can!
Funny enough, Jugulate + Duality are so fast you can wind them inbetween a single GCD as if they were mudras. So landing an Aeolian for solo with them is pretty nice (and amazingly badass).

[Krissey]

I'm beginning to grow Weary of Ninja. It feels exactly like old school feral druid to me: Dancing Edge = Mangle, Shadow Fang = Shred, Mutilate = RIP, Huiton = Savage Roar.

Juggling the debuffs, dots, and buffs while trying to fit in your nuke filler (Aolean Edge = Ferocious Bite) is exhausting. There's no breathing room, it feels like you can't make a single mistake or your damage suffers cripplingly. However unlike the Feral Druid, which was tedious enough as is, we have to weave in all these extra oGCD cooldowns and abilities (Ninjitsus, Jug, Mug, DwD, Duality, etc..)