DEV REQUEST:DUEL/SPAR system

[Nalien]

The overwhelming difference is that all of those except the RoT spam are localized to restricted areas of the map. As for the RoT spam, having something annoying in the game already is no justification to add a second annoying thing.

You're aware our suggestion is effectively the same as Triple Triad, right? Just out in the wilderness rather than in cities. People would only be able to duel in areas where they'd be spamming their skills in PvE content; Hunts, Maps, FATEs, regular mobs...

Oh really? You do know that they did "put aside" server resources for Legacy players. This would be the same exact thing.

Legacy servers weren't an "extra" thing, they were simply a distinction between servers where people had carried over from 1.0 and servers where everyone would start at Lv1 with nothing...

So why do you insist on an option that, at the very least, has the real potential to annoy non-PvPers when there is a far superior solution that had the added benefit of actually making it easier for you to find people to duel with?

Again, because I don't think you going "Ew, those two are dueling!" is an annoyance which outweighs me losing well over 70m Gil. Because I don't think your "issue" would be a wide spread one. Because I don't need it to be easier to find people to duel with, I already know enough PvPers on my server to manage just fine. Because I don't think SE should have to go out and purchase extra servers just because you have an issue with seeing people duel in the same places they'd be spamming skills in PvE...

[Gilthas]

You're aware our suggestion is effectively the same as Triple Triad, right? Just out in the wilderness rather than in cities. People would only be able to duel in areas where they'd be spamming their skills in PvE content; Hunts, Maps, FATEs, regular mobs...

Except that Triple Triad is far less invasive than dueling.

Legacy servers weren't an "extra" thing, they were simply a distinction between servers where people had carried over from 1.0 and servers where everyone would start at Lv1 with nothing...

And dueling servers would be the exact same thing, but better for duelists. Yet you don't want that.

Apparently a DRG fighting a Morbol and a DRG fighting a MNK is vastly different with the latter being cancer to the eyes.

If it weren't different you'd be content with fighting Morbols instead of asking for duels.

Again, because I don't think you going "Ew, those two are dueling!" is an annoyance which outweighs me losing well over 70m Gil. Because I don't think your "issue" would be a wide spread one. Because I don't need it to be easier to find people to duel with, I already know enough PvPers on my server to manage just fine. Because I don't think SE should have to go out and purchase extra servers just because you have an issue with seeing people duel in the same places they'd be spamming skills in PvE...

And you losing well over 70m gil isn't an annoyance that outweighs my dislike for duels either. If duelists would be as rare as you claim them to be, then your issue wouldn't be a widespread one either. SE also wouldn't need to buy new servers because they're going to be freeing up servers soon enough when they open the EU datacenter. Leaving what? "I don't want a better environment to find duelists just because I don't want to acknowledge that your solution is far better for everyone."

[Kikosho]

If it weren't different you'd be content with fighting Morbols instead of asking for duels.

Your initial point was that the aesthetic of the game would change negatively. And of course, fighting against a player is vastly different than a computer AI, including if the Morbol in my example was controlled by a player. I figured this would be obvious.

[Gilthas]

Your initial point was that the aesthetic of the game would change negatively. And of course, fighting against a player is vastly different than a computer AI, including if the Morbol in my example was controlled by a player. I figured this would be obvious.

Yes, and the aesthetic of adventurers fighting monsters is very different from having them fight each other. You're obviously not bothered by it, I am, and I'm certainly not alone in this.

Yet you guys refuse the superior solution that would be dueling servers.

[Kikosho]

Yes, and the aesthetic of adventurers fighting monsters is very different from having them fight each other. You're obviously not bothered by it, I am, and I'm certainly not alone in this.

Well, as Nalien so kindly amended for me:

Apparently a DRG fighting a 5th Cohort Secutor and a DRG fighting a MNK is vastly different with the latter being cancer to the eyes.

Aesthetically, you're seeing two non-beastmen race individuals fighting against each other. Does it also displease you when we have to fight against non-beastmen in the MSQ, in Halatali, or against Hoary Boulder?

Yet you guys refuse the superior solution that would be dueling servers.

As I said before, then why not Triple Triad only servers? You and I acknowledged that TT can only be played in certain areas in the open world, quite similar to our proposal of only being able to duel in certain areas in the open world. To be honest, I'm flabbergasted that you seem to think your solution is "superior" when the negatives it will cause players far outweigh your "eww duels" mentality. But considering your view that a player losing 70 million gil and housing property is insignificant, we're just going to have to agree to disagree.

And if you haven't realized by now, I was being sarcastic about being annoyed by TT challenges. I simply say no and move on.

[Allyrion]

Aesthetically, you're seeing two non-beastmen race individuals fighting against each other. Does it also displease you when we have to fight against non-beastmen in the MSQ, in Halatali, or against Hoary Boulder?

You racist! Beastmen have feelings too.
They might be mind controlled, but they're every bit as sentient as the other humanoids!

[Kikosho]

You racist! Beastmen have feelings too.
They might be mind controlled, but they're every bit as sentient as the other humanoids!

I love all those fabulous creatures, they are useful training dummies.