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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Taisai Jin
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    Twintania
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    Lancer Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by bettomendes View Post
    This, so many times! Even with pvp-only Actions, sooner or later people would start to whine about how monks are powerful, that paladin Pacification skill or whatever they find """unfair""".
    Again, this already occurs in the PvP section and you're seemingly completely oblivious to it. Not only that but SE does not take PvP into account when balancing PvE. You're none the wiser to this now, why would you be with duels?

    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    But I also want PVP to stay in its box.
    Ignoring how condescending this sounds, I already pointed out issues with that, didn't I?

    If you have a few select venues where people can duel, then PvPers will gather in those areas to duel and it's likely one will be more popular than the other just out of convenience. That means our dueling venue will have a fair amount of people crowding the area fighting, creating lag and other issues. Why should we suffer that inconvenience (and lag is a major inconvenience in PvP...) just because a handful of people see some massive difference between a DRG fighting a 5th Cohort Secutor and a DRG fighting a MNK? Fighting in a box works for instances where it would just be two people, but again we don't want instances. Shoving every PvPer into one ring would just be absurd, imagine every boxer/wrestler/whatever in a single ring. The zone would have to be massive, though given how unused the open world is in this game that still seems like it would just be a waste to make an extra one. What do you honestly care if two people are dueling out in the wilderness? How often do you actually visit such places? Even someone actually leveling, rather than sitting at camp waiting for queues/PF would only see such duels in passing. It's not like it would be something that would be in your face that you're forced to watch, in fact I'd imagine most would initially mistake duels for some form of Levequest, seeing as some of them pit us against humanoid enemies... Unless you're interested enough to sit around and watch, how would it really affect you?

    The only issue here is people not wanting to see duels, and that is frankly an absurd complaint. We've covered how balance isn't an issue. We've covered how PvE players could be kept out of the loop with various restrictions. There is no issue here other than "I don't want to see duels !", and that is something which simply cannot be taken seriously. It's the complaint of a child, everyone has things they don't want to see, but most of us past the age of 10 tend to realize that the world doesn't revolve around us and other people might enjoy things we don't.

    Someone, please, just give me a detailed run down of how two people dueling (not getting you involved, because of the restrictions suggested) would somehow ruin your day. Are you perhaps doing Ixali Dailies and you see two people dueling as you leave Revenant's Toll? Does that 3 seconds of witnessing a duel sour your entire day? I am honestly interested in what the big issue is with just seeing duels taking place, although so far only two or three people even seem to have that issue.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 06-13-2015 at 09:12 PM.