The broken FFXIV Holy trinity

[SarcasmMisser]

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Hi I know you don't like directly responding to important questions so you can stay on message and continue to parade that Yoshida comment around, which I am sure at this point is framed and placed on an altar with burning candles and incense, but can you give us a time frame of how long you will continue to get mad over something that will never change? Maybe there will be a point where you stop dragging it into literally every thread ever?

Also I don't see where in that yoshida post he is talking about dungeons? He is talking about 8 man raids, if you are going to continue citing it like it's statute at least address why that is relevant at all, or is it because you cannot relate to the subject for some reason? Important questions likely to not be given an adequate answer.

[Samburi]

There is far more wrong with housing than anyone wants to admit to. The lack of instancing, the abhorrent costs, and the fact that every home is already taken before you can even blink when they add more wards.

If every plot is gone after a blink of the eye, then the prices were just too low, not too high.

[Gilthas]

Lack of housing plots is a real problem, but people need to stop complaining about how expensive they are. Its really not that hard to save up gil for an S house.

[Hieral]

in FFXI and in a lot of other game even with the best gear in the game you can't just take on 15 mobs and aoe them down. Actually i dps ninja. Here is what you do to aoe. Huton->Kassatu->Doton->Spam death blossom until you can cast either doton or maybe katon depending on the situation. Most of the time you're pressing death blossom. Yes it is one button and yes i do perform in high numbers. What else is there to do. The game design is bad with regards to mobs and it's starting to show with player habits

Well there's your problem. You're AoE DPSing on a job that is not designed for large AoE DPS. Try BLM out. You'll love it.

Source: i130 ninja main

[KisaiTenshi]

There is far more wrong with housing than anyone wants to admit to. The lack of instancing, the abhorrent costs, and the fact that every home is already taken before you can even blink when they add more wards.

Again, that's not this thread. If everyone deserved a house, the they would have pulled the kind of nonsense Mabinogi did with the "homestead" and it would be come an unlimited resource farm for botters. That is why instanced housing is the wrong thing to do, even if well intentioned.

DPS healers... not so big a deal in my opinion. Sure, you'll get some idiots who think that spamming Holy instead of actually healing is considered beneficial, then blame the tank when they inevitably die. You also get some idiots who forget they're in clerics stance and start madly spamming heals on you because they didn't realize it reduces cures by 20%. But there are plenty of people out there who have a good balance.

If you can do it without it harming the flow, then go for it.

Besides, regardless of what Yoshi-P says I firmly believe that some content was designed with healer DPS in mind. I base this on the sheer amount of damage needed in those instances and the minimum ilvl set by the developers. Simply put, in much high end content, you would be hard-pressed to win without healer damage if you played at the base item level for that dungeon simply because there are often rage mechanics in place.

What Yoshi-P said was that they designed the dungeon content without taking into account the healer DPS. This is not by any means a "hardcore" game, so players who actually have all the gear from the previous dungeon should have no problem playing the current dungeon content. DF PUG's are not the same thing as Static's. Many of the arguments about DPS'ing as a healer completely ignore the conditions that are allowing them to DPS at all.

For example, Sometimes I get a raid where nearly no healing is required, this is because the other healer is a scholar, their fairy is doing all the reactive healing AND the players are actively avoiding taking damage, and likely also are well overgeared.

But what ticks me off is this (different from above):

Because the player just straight up went "I'm not gonna heal, at all" (and indeed didn't exit CS except to unnecessarily use Medica II,) and this has been happening more frequently. Which means that I'm having to do MY job and THEIR job.

[Lewtskie]

Well there's your problem. You're AoE DPSing on a job that is not designed for large AoE DPS. Try BLM out. You'll love it.

Source: i130 ninja main

Truth right hurr.... I've given up trying to do anything AoE on and DPSer that isn't designed for AoEs. And really, for the most part the only one really ever best suited is BLM, lol. Everything does so at too high a TP cost with too low a dmg output or in SMN's case just takes damn forever to get every dot out if there are more than four mobs.

[Cynfael]

"Healer must DPS" argument is completely demolished. End of story.

...are you the Iraqi Information Minister? Loved your work in the early 90s.

Your capacity to spin information to make your arguments regardless of what's going on around you is almost impressive. Whenever I think we're making some progress, you relapse into the same debunked rhetoric.

[Dimitrias]

Why are the dungeons synched down to i100? they would be more challanging if they synched um down way more. Like synch um down to there original level when they were first realeased. Like Wonderer's palace, normal should be synched to around ilvl 60, same with AK normal.

Plus CT and prae isnt even synched at all, there a total joke now.

[T2teddy]

i stopped reading when you said this.

And I bet many people stopped reading most of your blather since you insist on using a mathematical short form as a substitute for the word 'because.' [cos]
Sorry, I'm not normally a grammar nazi but that was just ridiculous!

[SarcasmMisser]

What Yoshi-P said was that they designed the dungeon content without taking into account the healer DPS.

No he is not he was talking about 8 man raids. Raids. Stop ignoring people who point this out and address the 8 man coil raids he was referring to, not CT, not dungeons. RAIDS.

Why can't you talk about the 8 man raids? The dynamic of 4 and 24 mans is not the same if you can't talk about the 8 man raids then stop talking.

Also I like that the person saying they're going to holy trash was being very nice about it. You're not the good guy in this story. Why are you mad that he is DPSing, because you want to DPS instead? I thought you liked healing, that's baffling consider the incoming damage is so low that 6 healers is completely redundant in CT raids; you would literally have nothing to heal if everyone tried healing.

So you don't want to DPS, you don't want others to dps, you want 6 heals to heal in CT when all incoming damage can be covered by regen and faeries. Do you want to do anything? You're being as bad as any snobby elitist who demands that healers DPS except instead of demanding people play well you are demanding people play bad.