Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
While I agree with this message, I believe there should be a small stipulation added to please do not push this line when playing with random PuGs. There's always going to be a random factor associated with these players. The players discussed by Viviza are those who are comfortable playing with zero safety net and do so constantly with their static and/or friends. You'll always want some form of safety net involved when partied with random players.
This is the point that is constantly missed... in damn near every thread.

Playing with a static is nothing like playing with PUG's. Every time you get a new PUG, you have to see where the limits are, and depending on your data center, you may end up with bad PUG's consistently enough. Playing with statics you already know where your static's limits are.

Like previously VanilleFang has said they play exclusively with PUG's like I do, but our experiences are completely different because I'm on the Primal center and a Legacy server and VanilleFang is on Aether and a non-legacy server.

Primal seems to consist of a lot of players that just want to faceroll or be carried. That again, has a lot to do with all the troll "gamer" communities taking up residence on Excalibur. So you just go into PUG's with that low expectation (which shows up all the time in 24-man labyrinth of trolls and world of derp) that half the party will ignore the mechanics. So it's infuriating to see healers full-time CS in those instances, like the CS is the "Super DPS mode", it's not. Instead of being an effective healer, you end up being a mediocre DPS and the main tank and everyone hates you. Use the CS when there is opportunity to DPS, not because you don't want to be a healer.