Why punish players who just want to play DoL DoH?

[Delily]

It's true, most people already have combat classes at the ready, but a large portion of them don't have their MSQ up to date, still a minority, but it's always the minority of the player base that gets shafted

Gameplay doesn't need to be redesigned to alleviate this, SE just needs to admit that Ishgard gating behind MSQ for reasons of lore is just silly.. When there are so many other things in the game that clash with the lore, might as well just open it up and let people access Ishgard without all that questing. I honestly don't see how this kind of change would affect other players at all, SE can still enforce a level gate to keep out the true unprepared adventurers.. When one of my character's core concept is that of a traveling merchant, much like Torneko of DQ series, or Chongara from Arc the Lad, it really sucks that I have to now make them into a seasoned veteran of combat

How exactly are you getting the shaft? Seriously, how long have you known you needed to complete the 2.55 MSQ to gain access to Ishgard? At this point, if you have a level 50 battlecraft class and you haven't completed the MSQ knowing full well it's a requirements, the onus is on you to change, not SE.

The developers and designers of ARR have been very clear that this is a theme park raiding MMO. This is also a Final Fantasy game, where your character(s) have always been at center of these world changing events, thick in the action. I can't think of any game in the series where the main protagonist has been a travelling merchant.

The core design of the game does not support the concept of a travelling merchant, not for player characters. The issue here is SE has not built the game you want to play. They can not be all things to all people, ignoring the 800 lb gorilla of WoW, the cost of producing an MMO is so low the company needs to focus to distinguish themselves from other products in the market.

For FFXIV, that's the story. Unlike other games where the story is background or disjointed (WoW), or you follow a random set of disjointed quests to reach the endgame, and then go defeat big mobs because they're there, almost every activity in this game is tied to the main quest, or is related to it (Coil, CT).

The reason 3.0 is locked behind 2.55 is because the 3.0 story line is another chapter in the FFXIV world. Simply because you don't like it means you're not being punished, it means you're playing the wrong game.

[GenJoe]

No, I'm ready to get caught up.. I already have my combat class at the ready to tackle it, it's just annoying that I have to do it in order to satisfy SE's idea of lore accuracy when there are so many other things wrong with it than this one little thing.

it means you're playing the wrong game.

In an MMO, that's a very hard argument to win, lots of people have different ways of playing the game and for a good reason, I sure as hell wouldn't want to gather all my own mats for crafting.. and I'm sure you wouldn't want to craft all the low level gear that you can just buy from other people etc..

So basically, we're in an interconnected society where each person has a role to fill. A new chapter is about to open, and only the warriors are allowed to go there, everyone else on the fringe will have to take out their training swords and get fightin'.

I've accepted that to be the case, I'm ready to do my MSQ, but it still doesn't change the fact that it's more than a minor annoyance for really, not a very good reason.. To keep RMT out of Ishgard? To make the lore accurate? Come on, I could really use a better reason than that to get through all dem quests.

I can get all my gear from dungeons so invalid.

Okay then.. let's make it food/potions for raids? Are you completely self sufficient? I know a few people who are, but they are very very rare..

[Barimu]

and I'm sure you wouldn't want to craft all the low level gear that you can just buy from other people etc..

I can get all my gear from dungeons so invalid.

[Delily]

In an MMO, that's a very hard argument to win, lots of people have different ways of playing the game and for a good reason, I sure as hell wouldn't want to gather all my own mats for crafting.. and I'm sure you wouldn't want to craft all the low level gear that you can just buy from other people etc..

I don't need to win it. Parley was present in 1.0, and was removed for 2.0. Simply because they are multiple (4) types of players (achievers, socializers, killers, explorers) does not mean a game has to support them all.

So basically, we're in an interconnected society where each person has a role to fill. A new chapter is about to open, and only the warriors are allowed to go there, everyone else on the fringe will have to take out their training swords and get fightin'.

I keep saying how this is not a MMO first, it's an FF game first. You made another post about there being multiple warriors of lights. There are not, from the story's perspective, you are the only WoL. Anytime you have been in a group, the game has phrased it as you are gathering forces. The interconnected society you are referring to exists, but has little bearing on the actual game itself, especially since you don't need crafting to clear the highest content.

I've accepted that to be the case, I'm ready to do my MSQ, but it still doesn't change the fact that it's more than a minor annoyance for really, not a very good reason.. To keep RMT out of Ishgard? To make the lore accurate? Come on, I could really use a better reason than that to get through all dem quests.

Again, this is a Final Fantasy game. The main quest has ALWAYS been the driver.

[Miya_Carbuncle]

Honestly, I just wish you didn't need a DoW/DoM to unlock leves for DoH/DoL. Seems like a silly limitation IMO.

Just coming from someone who was really into crafting when I was new on my old character (before fantasia potions were a thing ).