Why punish players who just want to play DoL DoH?

[Foomerang]

I dont care about the combat in this game. I dont care about the storyline. I just want to experience the new DoL DoH content, race my chocobos, tend my garden and be part of the community. I dont think thats too much to ask in an mmorpg. Im happy with the game that way and gladly pay my sub for that content available to me. Locking the expansion behind 100+ required combat centric quests after already reaching 50 with a combat class is disheartening.

I wish they would've said from the beginning at 2.1 that these quests were required to unlock the expansion.

[Reokudo]

Considering the focus of the game is to you know, go out there and adventure and slay things... Yeah. Crafting and gathering are side attractions to the ride.

[Cherie]

? You are unhappy because they put combat quests in the game.

I'm trying to imagine what more gathering/crafting quests would actually look like. As someone who also has done every gathering/crafting quest line to 50... I think they did a pretty good job. I'm not really sure what else there was to add.

The benefit of a combat class is it involves going to far off lands, meeting strange new people and then killing them.

The whole gathering/crafting quest line involves ultimately selling your goods. The marketboard is the end boss... and believe me, it's a tough one...

Being as it's your idea to make more crafting/gathering quests... do you actually have ideas for some? Cause I have none... lol It's easier to say something is wrong than to actually suggest how to "fix" it.

[Yuri_Hyuga]

This' honestly... a really great point.

Up until now, you could experience all this game had to offer for DoH/DoL without ever having to complete MSQ or enter combat-content.

It's pretty sad that players who wish to play like this will be locked out form Ishgard due to MSQ gating.

[Zorlinta]

Well im also like more gathering/crafting, but storyline is fun too, those are short and not so hard to follow (except a bit from the required dungeon instances), but if you have good friends or FC makes easier complete those. Also is only needed to follow the main story up to 2.55 and it have some dungeon with I90 items, those i90 items are easy to get with the weekly/dailies tokens, so is nothing far from otherworld, also if you are dedicated DOH, then you could make your I90, I100 items.

[FoxyAreku]

This is the only MMO I know of that has a ton of stuff to do that doesn't involve killing stuff, and while I think that's amazing and fantastic, I don't think you should act like avoiding combat is a normal thing for this genre. You're definitely in the minority here, as this is still an MMORPG at its core, not a crafting or racing simulator. There will always be required combat, and if you don't like that you might be playing the wrong genre of game. Just my two cents.

[TitaniaZero]

To be fair. Those that made their crafters/gathers in 1.0 were good to go. Back then you could craft/gather you way to 50. No questies, nothing. Sure it was more fun (imo) to do the combat classes but I know some that were thrilled with the idea that they could at lvl 1, craft/gather.

2.0+ however is not 1.0 The crafting/gathering classes cannot be a starter class, happens 10 levels from 1, and requires the MSQ to get to places. (Well maybe not, you could theoretically walk from Gridana, to Ul'Dah, to Limnsa. But that is a pain and a half.) In fact the crafting/gathering storylines all like to hammer you with the: You are a combat Adventurer and know so little about our precious non-combat stuff~ Well until lvl 40 anyway. Oo

Still I hear your unhappiness OP. But like those before you, the MSQ Gate remains despite your desire for it not to. And we're about 1 month away from 3.0. The window to change things is very small now.

[Adire]

Why can't you get into Heavensward if you can craft the Archbishop a new HQ fancy pope hat?

Surely he would accept that as an alternative way to gain entry.

Edit: In all seriousness though, I agree with the OP. If people want to pursue a life of peacefully chopping up nature, let them. If you have to, add a long, difficult questline full of grinding DoH/DoL stuff as an alternative to get into Heavensward. It doesn't even have to have rewards other than entry to Heavensward. Options are a nice thing, and until recently in my MMO career, I preferred crafting/gathering myself.

[Foomerang]

I guess I just want to experience the new DoL DoH and other non combat activities without being forced to do 100+ combat quests at level 50. Plus whatever they are going to force me to do from 50-60 to unlock other aspects of the game which may or may not be combat centric.

I came from an mmorpg that was a lot less linear than this. So its a rough adjustment for me.

[Mugiawara]

Not to be rude but I have to agree with FoxyAkeru.
Something like Harvest Moon or Rune Factory [Single player games mind you.]
may be more to your liking. This games core is battles. The crafting is the most amazing in any MMO
I've come across and easier though...I'm just lazy to do it lol. I wouldn't be oppose to adding more
neat things for gathers and crafters!