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    I think you'll find that on paper WHM is getting the ability to DPS just as well, potentially, better than SCH. They're getting more DPS abilities with DoT effects, and instant low potency cure spells. Depending on how often you can use them, WHM could even become better at DPSing than SCH. If they gave WHM more mitigation on top of that, then they would literally be the perfect healers. Access to strong single target / AoE heals, HoTs, mitigation, instant heals and good DPS options.

    It seems like the healer jobs are all going to have a lot of tools to do most things, so will most likely be perfectly balanced. I don't understand why WHMs want more on top of what you've already been given. Sure, SCH got AoE heals, but as a SCH main I'm not even happy about that. It's not meant to be our game to AoE heal, and it's taking some uniqueness away from both SCH and WHM. But then you guys could potentially be getting our DPS. It's give and take with both jobs, and quite frankly I don't see the need to get so defensive over this when we still have a lot to find out about all jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabzy View Post
    I think you'll find that on paper WHM is getting the ability to DPS just as well, potentially, better than SCH. They're getting more DPS abilities with DoT effects, and instant low potency cure spells. Depending on how often you can use them, WHM could even become better at DPSing than SCH. If they gave WHM more mitigation on top of that, then they would literally be the perfect healers. Access to strong single target / AoE heals, HoTs, mitigation, instant heals and good DPS options.

    It seems like the healer jobs are all going to have a lot of tools to do most things, so will most likely be perfectly balanced. I don't understand why WHMs want more on top of what you've already been given. Sure, SCH got AoE heals, but as a SCH main I'm not even happy about that. It's not meant to be our game to AoE heal, and it's taking some uniqueness away from both SCH and WHM. But then you guys could potentially be getting our DPS. It's give and take with both jobs, and quite frankly I don't see the need to get so defensive over this when we still have a lot to find out about all jobs.
    Just like you are groaning about having more healing options as a SCH (whyever), some WHM are groaning about having more DPS options (whyever). However despite having more DPS options, it's already a very clear and obvious fact RIGHT NOW that WHM and DPS don't go too well together because of MP issues. Having more dps tools that will cost even more MP will only further expand upon this if there are no changes to how WHM mp is right now.
    SCH is already in an amazingly good place when it comes to MP, except when healing under pressure which surprise, the new healing abilities look to help out with. You can't say "it's not meant to be our game to X" because it was teh community that decided SCH dps AND heal because well, they perfectly well can. WHM can not currently and they are getting SOME help on that but until we see some major improvements in MP management for WHM, it will never be as good as SCH. It simply wont happen.

    When it comes to damage mitigation, the whole point is still PICK ANY HEALER YOU LIKE, Supervirus prevents that choice. Any group that will not have a SMN or SCH in it will suffer, greatly, while any group that does have a SCH (or SMN) will have a major advantage. It's incredibly simple to see, it's not like I'm asking WHM to have every mitigation tool SCH has, nor that AST should have it, I'm saying WHM -AND- AST should have Supervirus. That's it, nothing else.



    If you still don't think Supervirus is that important, you clearly don't know what you are arguing for or against and should just quit. As long as supervirus is a thing that is exclusive to SCH among healers, people will be forced to have a SCH in their groups.
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