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Thread: RIP Bard

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    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Why the hell is this considered "RIP BARD" to people? This is what people have been asking for - a LOT. They wanted to be more Archer/Ranger with "Cast times on ranged attacks" to be more DPS based. Well, here's an awesome song that will allow you to amplify your damage at the expense of not moving.

    Personally? I find this -awesome- and think that it will really define a good bard over the ADHD bards that jump in circles spamming a single skill. -_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Why the hell is this considered "RIP BARD" to people? This is what people have been asking for - a LOT. They wanted to be more Archer/Ranger with "Cast times on ranged attacks" to be more DPS based. Well, here's an awesome song that will allow you to amplify your damage at the expense of not moving.

    Personally? I find this -awesome- and think that it will really define a good bard over the ADHD bards that jump in circles spamming a single skill. -_-
    Yeah, I mean I was fine with the support in the background role of bard as we do small roles too because we're the only current mobile dps and songs are pure support but this gives us a little bit of a boost when we're burning in a period of a boss phase with no movement being required. :x

    So I accept this skill wholeheartedly, it'll just take time to get use to its pros and cons.
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    Last edited by Lillia; 05-22-2015 at 06:02 AM.

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    Yeah, kind of have to go with the 'this is awesome' people. I mean, casters have had to stand still to do their roles since role playing games have been a thing and noone's complained about that. Bard will get an ability that will theoretically put them on par with casters damage-wise and suddenly it's all doom and gloom? I think this is going to be pretty cool. I like being a support role but this will definitely make my solo life alot easier and will probably get some use in party content.
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    As a BRD Main...

    -I'm really confused/puzzled by the turret moding effect being put as a song buff. I mean there's willing suspension of belief, but how does me singing improve my own damage through stronger, less frequent shots?

    -As people have mention, this essentially disables barrage, which is one of the stronger cooldowns when stacked with B4B and hawkeye. Unless barrage adds to the charge somehow...otherwise I don't get why they'd even showcase the bard using barrage in the video.

    Outside of that, I already dislike bards for being fairly underwhelming with their animations/overall aesthetics. Looking from the effects and animations alone, it seems really underwhelming compared to what the other classes are getting
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    personally i dont think its that bad.. if anything its gonna improve bards dps alot, yesh bard love to run around while dpsing but we dont really have to most of the time
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    I agree with others, thinking the damage increase will have to be substantial; since we'll be losing auto-attacks, movement and instant shots. But if it is, I look forward to this ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Why the hell is this considered "RIP BARD" to people?
    When I originally created the thread I was actually too late for the live letter and was watching the job skill animations. I didn't think that the song had anything to do with the cast times at first and saw the cast times being applied to poison shot and windbite. It's not a problem now that I know it's a toggle with the song. The ability is still extremely situational and until we know everything about it we can't actually know if it would even be viable to use as a Bard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon View Post
    The ability is still extremely situational and until we know everything about it we can't actually know if it would even be viable to use as a Bard.
    Are you really so daft as to think a brand new ability that is supposed to increase your damage output is not viable, just because it comes with caveats?
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    my main issue with this skill is the amount of times im going to be forced to use it (2.5s GCD on top of that) everytime i move and stop i will use that skill....move and stop? use it again...

    wondering if will have a CD or not :S
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarinolde View Post
    Are you really so daft as to think a brand new ability that is supposed to increase your damage output is not viable, just because it comes with caveats?
    Wait, so under that logic do you think the MP & TP songs aren't viable because they lower your damage?

    Besides, like I said before, the song requires a 2.5 second cast and then proceeds to give your core attacks casting times as well as stop your auto-attack. It was pointed out before that during the video, the Bard put up Barrage, which should be useless under the effects of the new song, but we don't know if Barrage can affect the damage output anyway. We don't know how much the damage buff is going to be, so it stands to reason that we don't know whether or not the loss of potential damage is outweighed by the damage buff. Hence, we have to wait before we can say whether or not it is a viable thing.
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