RIP Bard

[Vespar]

By the way, where are these so called threads with people bitching to make bard a caster class in the first place?

I have never seen one. I would have argued to my death against it if I had....

[RiceisNice]

As a BRD Main...

-I'm really confused/puzzled by the turret moding effect being put as a song buff. I mean there's willing suspension of belief, but how does me singing improve my own damage through stronger, less frequent shots?

-As people have mention, this essentially disables barrage, which is one of the stronger cooldowns when stacked with B4B and hawkeye. Unless barrage adds to the charge somehow...otherwise I don't get why they'd even showcase the bard using barrage in the video.

Outside of that, I already dislike bards for being fairly underwhelming with their animations/overall aesthetics. Looking from the effects and animations alone, it seems really underwhelming compared to what the other classes are getting

[StrejdaTom]

Outside of that, I already dislike bards for being fairly underwhelming with their animations/overall aesthetics. Looking from the effects and animations alone, it seems really underwhelming compared to what the other classes are getting

I play BRD as my main since 2013 and this is honestly my only problem with BRD.

[Dualblade]

As a BRD Main...

-I'm really confused/puzzled by the turret moding effect being put as a song buff. I mean there's willing suspension of belief, but how does me singing improve my own damage through stronger, less frequent shots?

Either A.) The singing in this case helps us "concentrate" (despite being able to sing another song alongside it) so our charged shots, aside from the charge, are hitting better areas (not quite critical hits but closer.)

Or B.) We are singing "I love you" at the top of our voices, weakening enemy morale and thus making them easier to kill.

(Also I'm not a Bard main, but I'm in the crowd of "probably good".)

[Riepah]

Either A.) The singing in this case helps us "concentrate" (despite being able to sing another song alongside it) so our charged shots, aside from the charge, are hitting better areas (not quite critical hits but closer.)

Or B.) We are singing "I love you" at the top of our voices, weakening enemy morale and thus making them easier to kill.

(Also I'm not a Bard main, but I'm in the crowd of "probably good".)

I much more wonder how the hell we're supposed to be able to sing two songs at once in the first place. Should've just called it a "Stance" or "Mode" like for other classes, really.

[Ultimatecalibur]

I much more wonder how the hell we're supposed to be able to sing two songs at once in the first place. Should've just called it a "Stance" or "Mode" like for other classes, really.

Probably in a similar way as Chet Atkins played "Yankee Doodle" and "Dixie" at the same time.

[SongJoohee]

This time last year

pls yoshi-p senpai i will sacrifice all my movement for extra deeps

[Dualblade]

I much more wonder how the hell we're supposed to be able to sing two songs at once in the first place. Should've just called it a "Stance" or "Mode" like for other classes, really.

According to some other threads I've seen XI did allow not only two songs at once, but even four at once! Which is even wierder. Mayhaps its more of when you sing both songs, you kinda combine them into one. Mash-ups and all that.

[StouterTaru]

According to some other threads I've seen XI did allow not only two songs at once, but even four at once! Which is even wierder. Mayhaps its more of when you sing both songs, you kinda combine them into one. Mash-ups and all that.

You could have two songs up on each party member per bard, but it required having an instrument equipped offhand, and you couldn't have double of a song up. There were also about 20 times as many songs.

[kyuven]

According to some other threads I've seen XI did allow not only two songs at once, but even four at once! Which is even wierder. Mayhaps its more of when you sing both songs, you kinda combine them into one. Mash-ups and all that.

The logic was a bit different.
Since they had durations like any other spell, the understanding was that they were just spells cast with music instead of magic.
There were also a LOT more of them. By 50 you had about a dozen of them. The cap was 99. And given those two songs could be the same "line" and still stack, the actual count rather than just "upgrade lines" was valid :P