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    Katarh Mest
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    I'm a career bard and I can see this having situational uses.

    Fight where I need to dodge constantly, e.g. Midgardsormr in Keeper of the Lake? This song is a no go.

    Fight where I can stand in one spot and just spam AOEs without moving? Pop this little ditty (with some Quelling Strikes, probably) and watch the damage fly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    I'm a career bard and I can see this having situational uses.

    Fight where I need to dodge constantly, e.g. Midgardsormr in Keeper of the Lake? This song is a no go.

    Fight where I can stand in one spot and just spam AOEs without moving? Pop this little ditty (with some Quelling Strikes, probably) and watch the damage fly.
    At least they catered to people who wanted a more DPS BRD than a support one.
    You just need to be smart on how and where you use the song...Just like every other song.
    100% situational but I fear there's going to be a lot of dead ones now. >.<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    At least they catered to people who wanted a more DPS BRD than a support one.
    You just need to be smart on how and where you use the song...Just like every other song.
    100% situational but I fear there's going to be a lot of dead ones now. >.<
    Some were already playing it more as a pure dps before now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    At least they catered to people who wanted a more DPS BRD than a support one.
    You just need to be smart on how and where you use the song...Just like every other song.
    100% situational but I fear there's going to be a lot of dead ones now. >.<
    aaah, but none other our other songs affects us in movement. Big difference.
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    Well how I see it. Is there isnt alot of fights that requires movement. Fights are pretty scripted in this game so dodging and attacking shouldnt be hard. bard can toggle on and off wanders for barrage. The real question I guess is if the buffed skills does more dmg than a regular skill + auto attack
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    Last edited by ExiaQuanta; 05-22-2015 at 04:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExiaQuanta View Post
    Well how I see it. Is there isnt alot of fights that requires movement. A bard can toggle on and off wanders for barrage. The real question I guess is if the buffed skills does more dmg than a regular skill + auto attack
    It's not just that, Bard's can sneak in Bloodletter and Repelling Shot mid-global cooldown, and if their abilities have a cast time, then it makes their global cooldowns less efficient. The damage bonus has to be extremely substantial for it to be considered as being on more than off. I could see it though as an opener to set up the initial Poison shot + Windbite + Sidewinder combo.

    The other problem is that it will lead to scenarios where you just finished putting up the song and something happens that requires movement, which will lead to players either being willing to move and losing all that time they spent casting, or take the hit so that they don't.
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    Inb4 bard op please ner(joke aside) this new song is pretty cool i just hope the damage buff makes up for the negatives
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    Quote Originally Posted by kirk View Post
    Inb4 bard op please ner(joke aside) this new song is pretty cool i just hope the damage buff makes up for the negatives
    I guess that is everyones concern now.
    Lets hope they did enough testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    I guess that is everyones concern now.
    Lets hope they did enough testing.
    They never do you should realise this by now, we're the real testers.
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    I don't understand why people are dreading this. Bard is my main DPS job, and I love this idea! But I also don't run around like a headless chicken when I play on bard, and yes, I also sing my songs.
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