Let us report retainers who sell items from bots

[Rath]

Not happening on balmung. Too many shard bots for it to work. Average price in 35-40 Gil and who would put up 9999 shards to play an undercut game.

There are times when shards go up to 100~ a piece. At these times nobody wants to pay 10000 for 100 shards, but they do. Then someone puts up 5-6 stacks of 9999 for 75. Those stacks do not sell, but everyone else immediately undercuts them down to about 50 within an hour. You usually see one crafter buy up 10-20k shards at this point from the smaller stacks people are undercutting with for half the price they were an hour before. Then you see the 9999 stacks vanish. Some times I have seen this happen when the prices are already at 50, and they plummet down to 25-30 before someone gobbles them all up.

The very first time I found a crafter doing this was with HQ dzemael tomatoes back when they were used for artisan specs. The price was up around 4k and this person put up stacks of 99 for 2k. A couple people undercut them, but I bought all of them, including the stacks. I was then immediately asked by a crafter to return her tomatoes as she was trying to get people to lower their prices. I routinely notice (now that I was looking for it) her retainers, and her FC mates retainers doing this on quite a lot of consumable items on a daily basis. Currently her crafting FC is doing this on MCD material and the price is down to 80-90k. They are using stacks of 15-45...they tried to get them down to 70k...but I bought their MCD and relisted for 100k (all sold), this was a couple days ago.

So although their are RMT botters and they are annoying, a lot of price fixing in the current markets (at least on coeurl) is crafters, not RMT.

[Ceodore]

A couple people undercut them, but I bought all of them, including the stacks. I was then immediately asked by a crafter to return her tomatoes as she was trying to get people to lower their prices.

I bought the 9999 stacks once and immediately got a tell from a crafter asking to buy them back.

Please tell me you didn't return these items for even a refund. They were idiots, and should feel the burn of their mistakes.

[Rath]

Please tell me you didn't return these items for even a refund. They were idiots, and should feel the burn of their mistakes.

She wasn't an idiot really, the tomato price remained at about 1500 because of her for about a week, she did lose her tomatoes to me though as I was buying them up anytime they dipped under 2k anyways. She just did not expect anyone to drop that amount of gil on them. Since that day though, she has more then regained her losses on other items I do not buy...she now checks if I am a frequent buyer before doing this. Mind you, I only see things like this happen with consumables...and would never buy up cheap equipment and do not recommend it.

The guy that asked about the shards ended up on my blist as he was raging mad lol. The prices now, are 80-110 for shards on my server and rarely do I see any large stacks any more. To be fair, I have rarely bothered to craft since 2.4 came out and only recently started to in order to build more reserves for heavensward. So large stacks may still be getting placed to lower the prices at times.

[Ceodore]

The guy that asked about the shards ended up on my blist as he was raging mad lol. The prices now, are 80-110 for shards on my server and rarely do I see any large stacks any more. To be fair, I have rarely bothered to craft since 2.4 came out and only recently started to in order to build more reserves for heavensward. So large stacks may still be getting placed to lower the prices at times.

If I ever see shards drop to below 50 gil a piece, I'll take them no matter what the stack and repost them in broken up stacks at higher prices.