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    Ostrogniew Radlutasch
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    I fully expect groups of people rallying to take off "competition" on the boards. No thanks.
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    Player Ceodore's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyar View Post
    I fully expect groups of people rallying to take off "competition" on the boards. No thanks.
    Well, the fact is, these reports have to be verified. Believe me, SE does not want the scandal of banning an account based on hearsay of "competition". The game would plummet, especially with the bad PR. However, you bring to point an underlying flaw with this system which will make it ultimately less productive. Bias and competition in the markets will lead to massive false report claims.

    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    But then I believe you are saying would be good to give more ability to the player to report gather bots?
    No no, what I am ultimately saying is that the system already in place for reporting gatherers is good. The system being purposed in this thread is flawed, less productive, and a larger waste of resources. And that the system for reporting players should be made more stream lined. For instance, the system for kicking players from a dungeon is quite simple and easy to use. The system for reporting players in the field should be just the same, simple and easy to use. That doesn't mean players should have the power to ban, but it should mean that the ability to file a report of botting should be made just as simple.

    Example: Right Click Player -> Report Player -> Options include harassment, vulgar language, RMT selling, Bot Program, etc.

    This doesn't mean the target player is banned. It just means that SE can receive a notification to investigate something that might be a problem.
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    Altrage A'uli
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceodore View Post
    Well, the fact is...

    ...the ability to file a report of botting should be made just as simple.
    So you don't think its easy to report possible ToS breaking activities? I mean its as simple as:

    1) Open menu
    2) Click Support & Information
    3) Click "Contact Us"
    4) Choose best option suited to the problem
    5) Write report and submit

    If they make it just

    1) Right click player or player name in chat box
    2) Click "Report player" and done

    Then they open the option to easy trolling, as well as bots to be able to mass report legit players to clog up the system. I'd love it if it were that easy but I don't think it is possible without serious complications.
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    Player Ceodore's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    So you don't think its easy to report possible ToS breaking activities? I mean its as simple as:

    1) Open menu
    2) Click Support & Information
    3) Click "Contact Us"
    4) Choose best option suited to the problem
    5) Write report and submit

    If they make it just

    1) Right click player or player name in chat box
    2) Click "Report player" and done

    Then they open the option to easy trolling, as well as bots to be able to mass report legit players to clog up the system. I'd love it if it were that easy but I don't think it is possible without serious complications.
    Well anything can be trolled and clogged. That's just the flaw of any system, including the one currently available. That's the issue with any system such as this. But seeing 50 reports come from the same person for the same exact thing on the same exact target as opposed to 50 reports coming from 50 different people that say one thing on 6 or 7 targets are two different things. For obvious reasons, those 50 reports coming from the same person are likely because that person is using a bot program to clog the system. They essentially hang themselves in this way. And those 50 reports from 50 different people on several different targets means SE has more evidence to begin an investigation, and they can essentially ignore those 50 reports from one person being filed about one person.
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