Take it easy on the Nerfing :/

[Gamer3427]

Apparently communicating with your party members is too hard

If you're mocking people saying such, then clearly you either only run with pre-formed groups, or you have the luckiest DF combinations you can get. I find it rare that a DF group is willing to communicate, and even rarer when they're willing to help players who haven't done whichever run they're in before. Most just try to rush ahead and get it done with quickly and proceed to bash the new players for not knowing what they should be doing even though they have no reason they should know what they're doing, before rage quitting after just a couple of failed attempts with no effort made to help resolve the issue beyond blaming everyone but themselves. Truth be told, now that I think about it it's no wonder there are so few players willing to talk, since the elitist, speed running, players instantly go straight to bashing on anyone who does anything slightly differently than how they would like.....

[Lamentations]

If you're mocking people saying such, then clearly you either only run with pre-formed groups, or you have the luckiest DF combinations you can get. I find it rare that a DF group is willing to communicate, and even rarer when they're willing to help players who haven't done whichever run their in before. Most just try to rush ahead and get it done with quickly and proceed to bash the new players for not knowing what they should be doing even though they have no reason the should know what they're doing,

Except they do have a reason they should know what their doing, it's called "FFXIV you-tube memorization or gtfo of here online", because your wasting "our" time.

Meanwhile hardcores scream bloody murder about content nerfs, hmm isn't having forehand knowledge of a fight sorta making it easier?, guess that's twice off-topic now.

This doesn't sound very "hardcore" to me, or casual for that matter, I don't consider watching you-tube into wee hours of the night "casual".

Hardcore I suppose "if" your the content "first" clear group, who then makes the video, everyone else claiming hardcore status because they memorized a video are to me just hot air.

The guys/gals who did it "first", "cold", those are the "real" deals.

Long threads about who's actually wasting who's time on this matter have already been argued, I hate this you-tube warrior or gtfo mentality.

This is just another reason, (a big one imo), that community is so unwilling to help, and are so acidic and/or so unsocial.

The only reason I probably wont ever be forced out of my FC for commiting the ultimate sin of not having memorized every instance before I get to it is, my son is the FC leader.

And he refuses to do it either.

We either learn it the hard way cold, or we gtfo, as a FC at least.

Wonder sometimes what happened to chat, or now headsets in games, well no matter, if you have it you-tube stamped on your brain, who cares?.

[AdamFyi]

If you're mocking people saying such, then clearly you either only run with pre-formed groups, or you have the luckiest DF combinations you can get.

You missed the sarcasm on the first part of the sentence. You'd think that making it italics would make it obvious, but nope.

Anyway, this fight is all about communication. You yourself gave yourself an answer; communication in some DF groups is terrible. This is why the Steps of Faith is such a unique case when it comes to discussion. It is by far the first encounter in the MSQ where you are forced to communicate and no amount of skill will help you there. You get players from both sides with toxic and elitist behavior. "Screw you, I do what I want," is the most common denominator from both parties.

[Fyce]

Anyway, this fight is all about communication.

Communication never turned bad players into good players.

The only communication needed in SoF (before nerfs) was to assign roles and tell what each role had to do. After that, it all falls into the hands of each individual player to be good at their assigned role.
Getting in a DF with bad players who can't do their job properly would way more often than not lead to a failed SoF run. And that happened a lot.

Initial communication was important, yes, but it never was the only key to victory in the end. You needed communication and at least average players.
No communication or below average player and your run would be a failure.

You clearly didn't run it enough in DF if you don't understand why I'm saying that.