DEV REQUEST:DUEL/SPAR system

[Malevicton]

Through all these pages I still don't see a compelling reason why not. "someone might be rude about it!" Oh no! This is an online game, if you shoot down something on the basis that someone might be rude about it then you're left with an empty .exe file and a lot of bitterness.

[Galdous]

The real issue is people use duels as the measuring stick to which job is considered strongest. If people would be allowed to duel then the job that wins the most duels would be complained about being the strongest and wanting SE to fix/nerf said job based on duel.

[kpxmanifesto]

The real issue is people use duels as the measuring stick to which job is considered strongest. If people would be allowed to duel then the job that wins the most duels would be complained about being the strongest and wanting SE to fix/nerf said job based on duel.

Wait, how would you know this would happen? Dueling hasn't even been implemented in the game yet. Where do you draw such an assumption from?

[Malevicton]

The real issue is people use duels as the measuring stick to which job is considered strongest. If people would be allowed to duel then the job that wins the most duels would be complained about being the strongest and wanting SE to fix/nerf said job based on duel.

I really can't see this hypothetical actually coming true. Even in more pvp focused games most players are aware that 1v1 balance is entirely different from group dynamics. As it is right now there's a small handful of people that complain about frontlines balance, but they're massively overwhelmed by the "yeah, but it's supposed to be badly balanced because the game is balanced around group pve content" crowd. I don't see why this pattern would not only not hold true, but flip to an immediate reversal and demand for 1v1 pvp balance. There are numerous other reasons that this wouldn't be a problem for ffxiv's specific case, one being that you can level all jobs and could duel with them interchangeably. That BLM getting all uppity? Switch to BRD and show him what's what. No big deal.

For each argument I've seen against duels there's an immediate and obvious counterargument that I can't help but feel people are actively ignoring.

Edit: On the subject of cognitive dissonance, I'm really enjoying how "the real issue" changes every page or two, and how we've all been so obviously blind to the core argument...

[SchanyX]

Wouldn't it be possible to do something like Triple Triad? Have an area where you'd be able to send requests to people within that area for the duel? If you wanted to participate, go to said area and find others willing to do the same? I'm neither for nor against it. I hardly participate in PvP as it is, but that doesn't mean I don't find the idea intriguing. Just a thought...

[VargasVermillion]

'final fantasy spirit' lol...

[kpxmanifesto]

'final fantasy spirit' lol...

My reaction too. What a laughable argument.

[Apoptic]

I'm telling you, the rationale of some people against adding even pretty basic stuff to this game is just bizarre, as is the hyper-sensitivity. I'm eagerly awaiting the threads after heavens ward launches by people complaining that someone was "flying too close to them".

[Alacran]

Last I checked the "spirit" of Final Fantasy and of Erozea is just fine with with us testing our martial ability against one another.

[Nalien]

Last I checked the "spirit" of Final Fantasy and of Erozea is just fine with with us testing our martial ability against one another.

Glad I'm not the only one who thought of that quest.