DEV REQUEST:DUEL/SPAR system

[Noshpan]

Even if there were a feature to auto-decline offers to duels, there would be those who would still antagonize and harass those who don't want to duel. Any have that sort of bullshit in the first place?

[AzraelX]

Even if there were a feature to auto-decline offers to duels, there would be those who would still antagonize and harass those who don't want to duel. Any have that sort of bullshit in the first place?

it would be all ignore invites..so you weren't even receive/see the invite

[Gilraen]

it would be all ignore invites..so you weren't even receive/see the invite

That's not what they were referring to. I played DCUO and had duel invites disabled... but that didn't stop people from spamming my chat declaring all manner of things about me for not accepting their duel.

[kpxmanifesto]

Even if there were a feature to auto-decline offers to duels, there would be those who would still antagonize and harass those who don't want to duel. Any have that sort of bullshit in the first place?

That doesn't really sound like a reason. There's a lot of harassment in PVE already. Should we do away with that as well?

[Nektulos-Tuor]

A dueling system, especially group vs group duels would be fun. It doesn't have to be 1v1.

[Hollowed]

What in the world is with all these children? lol, I mean holy sh#t what is the matter with all you naysayers. The option to dual would be fun for some and not others, key word here is OPTION. If you think dueling is stupid and a waste of your time, that's awesome, don't do it then, I surely wouldn't. But if you do like this sort of thing then what is wrong with that? Hey I wanna dual my friend on PLD v WAR all the time to see which would win, but we cant because Den is dead, FL sucks, and there is no dueling in the game. Seriously why do you CARE if people can dual or not, you want SE to NOT add it, why? It would do nothing to you at all, not even in the slightest, and it would be no more annoying in public areas than those ANNOYING DRGs who spam their stupid AoE until they run out of TP inside a city. "I don't like this idea so I think YOU shouldn't have it!" Stop being children, there is nothing wrong with having "options"

[Wobi]

What in the world is with all these children?

So a dissenting opinion automatically makes people angry children? It is a 100% fact that the majority of the playerbase is not a fan of PvP and that the classes are in no way balanced for this and if you think people would not complain about class imbalance you being are naive. They have only so many developers and for them to spend time adding something to please a very small percentage of the playerbase while at the same time ignoring the wishes of the majority would be silly for them to do.

[Hollowed]

It is a 100% fact that the majority of the playerbase is not a fan of PvP

A bold statement there friend, I did not realize you were our spokesman. Do not assume you know that; you dislike that I called those people children, well that is what they are, children act selfish and immature only caring about their own self, that is what a child does, and that is what many people crying about this are doing. So yes, children. Don't like that, then don't act like it. P.S. Don't speak for the majority of people, because you are NOT, and that is extremely insulting.

[kyuven]

A bold statement there friend, I did not realize you were our spokesman. Do not assume you know that; you dislike that I called those people children, well that is what they are, children act selfish and immature only caring about their own self, that is what a child does, and that is what many people crying about this are doing. So yes, children. Don't like that, then don't act like it. P.S. Don't speak for the majority of people, because you are NOT, and that is extremely insulting.

Wanna know the truth?
*I* wouldn't mind PVP duels. It might even be fun. I used to do it from time to time in older games and games that allow it I always give it a shot and rarely turn one down.
However, what *I* want isn't the issue here. What the COMMUNITY wants and what the DEVS want is what's important.
This game did not have PVP from the start. It is not a PVP-centric game. PVP is completely an afterthought. The devs clearly don't care about it, and you see more posts complaining about EYE COLOR than you do about the lack of PVP on this game's forums.
Therefore, it stands to reason that PVP isn't a big priority among players either.
Now, let me guide you to my thought processes on why OPEN WORLD PVP duels would be a bad idea.
What is the most annoying thing Dragoons do in the open world?
Ring of Thorns. It's loud and obnoxious.
What is the most annoying thing players do?
Emote spam.
What do duels involve?
Way more than ring of thorns. Things that are noisy and flashy.
What does open world PVP dueling allow? Dueling in towns.
What you are basically asking for is another tool to allow people to be annoyed, while offering no benefit beyond QoL and ePeen measuring contests.
There IS a solution, however, using instancing. But this would involve developer and server resources which are already limited, and with the classes unbalanced the resources simply would not be worth the time at this point.
part of being an adult is knowing you can't have everything you want.

[Nalien]

This game did not have PVP from the start. It is not a PVP-centric game. PVP is completely an afterthought.

You know PvP was planned from the beginning, right? We knew Frontlines was coming before this game even had an alpha version... Is the game PvP-centric? No, sure, it's a story driven MMO, of course it isn't. Is PvP an afterthought though? IDK, interviews about what 3.0 was going to be (before we knew) and mention of Frontlines-style content back when I was fighting Nael Desu Darnus in 1.0 kind of give me the impression that they were thinking about PvP before they even decided on the theme/locations for 3.0.

The devs clearly don't care about it, and you see more posts complaining about EYE COLOR than you do about the lack of PVP on this game's forums.

No, you see more posts complaining about eye colour in the General Discussion section (which on a good day is a cesspool of inane threads anyway). You don't see many threads here about PvP because the PvP subsection is a thing. A thing the community reps seem to out right ignore, sure, but that is where the majority the PvP-centric comments go.

As for the devs not caring about it... Is that why Heavensward is going to have a new gameplay mode for Frontlines complete with new map? Is that why they (somewhat) recently added Slaughter to Frontlines? They care about providing PvP content, that much is obvious. It's also obvious that they're ignoring the real problems with PvP in favour of just pushing out more maps, much to my dismay.

There IS a solution, however, using instancing. But this would involve developer and server resources which are already limited, and with the classes unbalanced the resources simply would not be worth the time at this point.
part of being an adult is knowing you can't have everything you want.

The PvP teams resources (yes, they have a whole team dedicated to PvP, again, clearly they care about PvP) may be limited to make a simple adjustment to Wolves Den to allow 1v1 (lol?), but that is because they are wasting their resources on things like Slaughter and whatever horror 3.0 holds in store. This isn't like the plethora of Housing issues we have where they can just go "We'll the team was working on Gold Saucer", it's not a lack of resources, it's the misuse of them which is damaging PvP. Wolves Den was introduced very early on in this games life, and since then it has constantly been ignored, rather than fixed. Not really surprised Frontlines ended up suffering similar issues.

Instead of fixing those issues, they opt to make matters worse by further splitting the community with more game modes. I know they have fixes planned and glorious things like PvP Tournaments in store, having followed most of their interviews over the years, but it is always "after this Frontlines content". It's infuriating at this point...