DEV REQUEST:DUEL/SPAR system

[Nalien]

Here's the most concrete response. It'll take developer time, of which there is only so much. To implement this, there will have to be other things we *don't* get. I'd rather have them do something in the Final Fantasy spirit.

Again, PvP content has its own team producing PvP content. Currently they're rehashing Frontlines as much as possible, to the point where we even have an entirely new map for 3.0. Most of us who actually use the content they produce would rather have something relatively simple (duels) than a repeat of Frontlines (Slaughter).

Those of us who actually use the content they produce realize the issues with it (ridiculous queue times) and would rather they fix that instead of adding more modes to split the community over (which just makes queues worse), but failing that we'd rather have something that is very easy to participate in and provides instant PvP gratification. Duels is that content. It requires one other person. If we want to practice, 1v1 balance doesn't really matter. If we want a serious match we can balance it ourselves.

Pretty much the only legitimate reason against duels I've seen is that PvEers are scared of others harassing them. Apparently they all ignore the fact that this doesn't happen already. When was the last time someone harassed you to play Triple Triad with them? Duels don't even need rewards like Triple Triad, so without that there would be little reason for someone to "pick on" someone who doesn't PvP (if duels equated to quick and easy Wolf Marks, I could see people spamming requests with anyone to get an easy win, but I'd suggest duels having no rewards). It would just be something PvPers do while waiting on those 30 minute+ queues.

[Dyvid]

Open World Dueling, no thanks.

1v1 fight in Ul'dah Coliseum, I can support this.

[kpxmanifesto]

IMO, no I don't like this idea. It just things to make scumbag people say "u noob cuz reject duel". So, -1 for this post.

Harassment like that is a considered an offense. Why not just report them and let GMs handle it?

[Eul]

Harassment like that is a considered an offense. Why not just report them and let GMs handle it?

Because I just want to make sure it won't happen in future...?

[kpxmanifesto]

Because I just want to make sure it won't happen in future...?

Why not just stay away from dueling designated areas then?

[Kikoten]

A friend of mine said to me one day that the only way open world PvP could work in Final Fantasy 14 is if Garlemald became a playable faction. If players had to choose between True Eorzeans (made-up faction name) or Garlemald, they could meet and fight each other in the open world.

But yeah, low-level ganking, trash talking, harassment, "grow a pair," "carebear," etc., etc., etc.

[Eul]

Why not just stay away from dueling designated areas then?

Because I give opinion to people who post duel on public area? I'm supporting to duel at place like Ul'dah's Colosseum but no for public place.

[Nalien]

Because I just want to make sure it won't happen in future...?

There is a deterrent already in place. Duels aren't going to suddenly cause a spike in harassment because of that.

How often does someone harass you to play Triple Triad? How often does someone harass you with trade blocks (when teleporting/etc.) or just verbally?

If someone wants to harass you, they already can. Duels aren't going to change a damned thing. Here's the perfect solution though; Make it so duels require a minimum PvP Rank. Done. PvEers who don't care can't even duel and nobody would be able to challenge you. People would only be able to demand a 1v1 if you'd ever actually PvP'd before.

The only remaining 'issue' is "I don't want to see people dueling", which is an absurd complaint. I honestly don't know why people play an MMO if seeing other people enjoying the game is some kind of issue for them... Why is it OK to have people spamming attacks on a Treasure Hunt mob but duels are somehow an issue? I really cannot understand that mentality...

A friend of mine said to me one day that the only way open world PvP could work in Final Fantasy 14

Why do people keep equating duels to open world PvP? They are two entirely different things...

Open world PvP in XIV would be perfectly fine if they limited it to a single area though. I could easily see them implementing an open world PvP area which is Grand Company verses Grand Company if the demand is there. Schedule it similar to Besieged in XI, 1 hour Twin Adders attack Maelstroms base, next hour Maelstrom attacks Immortal Flames base, next hour Immortal Flames attack Twin Adders base, then repeat. I actually imagine there would be enough people to participate in such a server based PvP event, seeing as there are plenty of fairly large Frontlines centric Linkshells already.

[kpxmanifesto]

Because I give opinion to people who post duel on public area? I'm supporting to duel at place like Ul'dah's Colosseum but no for public place.

Oh. I didn't get that from your previous statement.

"IMO, no I don't like this idea. It just things to make scumbag people say "u noob cuz reject duel". So, -1 for this post."

I thought that was a blanket statement saying that you wanted no dueling at all in the game. I misunderstood. Have a +1 like.

[Eul]

Oh. I didn't get that from your previous statement.

I thought that was a blanket statement, saying that you wanted no dueling at all in the game. I misunderstood. Have a +1 like.

I like PvP and Frontline, and my PvP rank is 40, of course I like PvP . Sorry if I make misunderstood post too