DPS display could easily be solved with a system already in game.

[siverstorm]

Its always amusing to see people downplay the negative behavior that being able to freely harass people with parser numbers brings. Give personal parsers so players in statics can learn and improve, but adding it freely to be spammed in PUG content is just wishing and praying for toxic behavior.

It's because most people overplay hypothetical situations. When you say the part about pug content, are you using it in context of the REST of my quote which you cut out? Are you saying it's going to be bad if they gave us an in game public parser for those pugging into t10-t13?

[SDaemon]

It's because most people overplay hypothetical situations. When you say the part about pug content, are you using it in context of the REST of my quote which you cut out? Are you saying it's going to be bad if they gave us an in game public parser for those pugging into t10-t13?

You mean the part about the public parser for DF groups in EX Primals and Coils? Yes.

[siverstorm]

You mean the part about the public parser for DF groups in EX Primals and Coils? Yes.

If a group is of average skill where one exceptionally bad player brings it down that player should be ousted. And before you rip my context to shreds (because it happens every time on these forums) I'm talking about people trying to clear content.

I am very forgiving when people are learning, we were all new once before. I even expect people to sometimes fumble in farm group pugs, I don't expect "top tier dps".

However, we need a public metric in the content where this discussion actually matters, or we'll just have the "250 dps poetics heroes" being silently kicked from groups with no idea what they were doing wrong. Since calling out someone's bad dps is against the ToS, even privately.

But of course, we can call out and kick tanks if they constantly fail to pick up adds or lose aggro, or healers who fail to heal through or mitigate unavoidable damage.

[SDaemon]

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Hmm maybe if there were an option to toggle it to public for pre-mades. Perhaps as a condition to join the PF group. But even with EX and Coils, if its a DF group, I just don't agree with a public parser.

[siverstorm]

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Honestly, that's probably fine too. NA duty finder is often filled with new players anyway.

I just firmly think it's worse that tanks and healers can be easily and quickly ousted for bad play and its fine, but if a dps is doing less than 60% of what their gear allows and causing undue stress on the entire party (of 7 other human beings) something needs to be done about it. I'm not even making wild expectations, an average dps can pull respectable numbers as long as they know their simple rotations.

On a related note regarding trivial content: It's still not okay that my Yagrush WHM can wreck almost half of the dps in augmented poetics AND keep up with heals in WoD on the first two bosses, but it is what it is.

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