Do you think sell groups are hurting end game community?

[Bluevann]

sometimes it happens that a player tell us "ok wait i'll ask to my RMT to give me 15m".

Do you really charge that much...? I cannot even picture a single drop worth 15M...

[Mimoza]

Do you really charge that much...? I cannot even picture a single drop worth 15M...

We do old content at 700k (everything except final coil more or less). That is the minimal price we can put for a sale, nobody will come under 100k/person. But fights like T13 are worth 15-50m in my opinion. Last phase is really hard with 7man since the OT will be targeted by both the twister AND the megaflare which means he have to stay close enough to the groupe to share the mega and far enough to avoid killing the whole party with twister. I know those are high prices but well it requires training to sell T13 even with 10% echo and i130 gear. We can't do it finger in the nose. When you are paying for 7ppl to do your job and you just have to stay dead the whole fight you may expect high prices on new contents, that's fair imo. If you don't have that money, just put a PF like "T13 training" and i'll be happy to join and give some advices but it will surely take more time and efforts to get the kill.

[Bluevann]

But fights like T13 are worth 15-50m in my opinion.

[Yukiko]

(..) but it will surely take more time and efforts to get the kill. (..)

Can you please explain whats the difference between waiting for customers and helping others in open parties?
You cant do both because once in group it locks you out from the other group, or are you one of those who is "helping" and then leaving with the words: "Sorry, FC is calling..."
Mostly empty groups in PF when they use words with "training" or such... To fill such a group sometimes needs hours!

[Mimoza]

@Yukiko What i mean is : it takes more time to learn a strat by yourself (even with experienced persons in your team) than it takes to be corpse carried.
When i join a training party, i stay until the party get a win or disband, even if it means i will miss some selling party at the same moment. Tbh i don't really care about gils, when i'm doing a duty, it can be a dungeon, a primal, a training PF or a sale, i'll keep playing until we win or someone die behind his computer. I can't bear myself the guys who are leaving like "oops sorry my cat is one fire, gtg" after one wipe.
You know, i'm not doing a PF all day long saying "Selling primal + coil", i also enjoy playing this game just for fun. For example this afternoon i joined a T11 training party. We did one full timer, reaching last phase multiple times, but at the end one tank had to leave and we just disbanded the party. Since i was sad for the person who made the team, i proposed to help him tonight when ppl from my static will be online so we can help him more efficiently and of course for free.
Most of the things which have been said on this topic are true but you can't really stop ppl from buying runs. But i agree that the shout spamming from kill sellers is annoying as hell, hopefully that's not yet the case on Cerberus so far.

[SevenHeavens]

Do you really charge that much...? I cannot even picture a single drop worth 15M...

I asked the price from a "pony seller run" and it was 8mil.

It's pathetic. I blacklist every run seller I see in pf so they're greyed out.

[GenJoe]

I asked the price from a "pony seller run" and it was 8mil.

It's pathetic. I blacklist every run seller I see in pf so they're greyed out.

It's a completely legitimate trade between two parties in agreement.

If you ask me, that's hell of a lot better than somebody who joins a farm group, dicks around for the whole fight, gets the loot on first drop, then leaves to do something else.

At least if there's money involved, everybody knows exactly what they're getting out of the deal. No dead weights.


and before you ask,

do I pay that kind of money for ponies?? NO, I don't think they're worth nearly that much, nor do I care for vanity items to even spend my time grinding them.. BUT the mere fact that such groups exist mean that there are people willing to pay that much for such services.