summoner dps how to do it

[Evtrai]

Whoever says that any of the melee classes is harder to play than SMN is terribly wrong, the only with some kind of crippling dificulty being MNK that can get severely punished by mechanics until you find the right timings of the fight to manage your grease lightning.

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Thanks for the reply, if you don't mind me asking further questions, any information regarding SMN is pretty scarce or outdated since they revolve around the time where SMN still had thunder. What would be SMN's stat prioritization or balances? Here's what I achieved so far over the last week:

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...racter/161493/

What's missing on that planned gear is ironwork hands and ironwork body, but to be honest I'm not sure if that's BiS, ignoring the existence of relic.

[melflomil]

sometime ago I let my pets beat up on the dummy i think for 11 minutes each. I got two ekindles off. Titan had about 112 dps garuda had 127 and ifrtit had 139. I used all there skill too.

[Havenchild]

Thanks for the reply, if you don't mind me asking further questions, any information regarding SMN is pretty scarce or outdated since they revolve around the time where SMN still had thunder. What would be SMN's stat prioritization or balances? Here's what I achieved so far over the last week:

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...racter/161493/

What's missing on that planned gear is ironwork hands and ironwork body, but to be honest I'm not sure if that's BiS, ignoring the existence of relic.

Well, I prefer over 530 crit, 370-385ish Spell speed and stacking INT and DET as high as possible. Some people consider the Ironworks Body to be BiS because playing with the current stat weights it adds up to more. I however feel that trading 5 Int and putting on the Demon Robe of Casting to give you 31 more DET is superior.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Q103

This would probably be the best setup for you using the Dreadwyrm book.

The Crafted shoes penta-melded are also very strongly considered BiS.

[Evtrai]

Thanks for your input, that doesn't seem a bad modification of my current build, will give it a shot at your suggested build.

[Fireselecta]

I however feel that trading 5 Int and putting on the Demon Robe of Casting to give you 31 more DET is superior.

It's so true... I made a lot of tests between the IW chest piece and the Demon Robe, on a fight like T13 (before echo) I increase my DPS by 20 (only for this particular piece...)

The Crafted shoes penta-melded are also very strongly considered BiS.

The Demon shoes are probably BiS if you consider the stat weight... Sad thing is our Flank acc cap... which means the crafted shoes penta-melded are more usefull than the Demon's ones.

[Fireselecta]

What would be SMN's stat prioritization or balances?

Havenchild's advices are pretty accurate --> something important is to never forget DET.

If it can help you, this is my main gear set : http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/QH3P .

I change some pieces depending of the fight i.e If i need to move a lot i prefer having the more Crit as possible (yes DoT's can crit too )
It's not really BiS cause I need to switch the gloves for T13 to be over acc cap though... and still need the earrings too...

[OneWingedSora]

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Q103

What about this set ?

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/QH69

[Koyuki38]

How many INT do we need to compensate 1 Matk from a weapon ?
How many DET do we need to compensate 1 INT ?
What is the value of CRIT and is ACC more important than other stats ?

Here I see that Demon's Robe seems better than Augmented Ironworks Robe.
Are we sure that +31 DET is better than +5 INT ? We also lose some 16 CRIT.
Also, acc cap would be hard to get without the deadwyrm robe

What is the truth behind this ? Is a 120 item a better BiS than a 130 ?

[Judge_Xero]

What about this set ?

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/QH69

That is IMO the best set you can get without the Zodiac (Full DET/CRIT)

How many INT do we need to compensate 1 Matk from a weapon ?
How many DET do we need to compensate 1 INT ?
What is the value of CRIT and is ACC more important than other stats ?

Here I see that Demon's Robe seems better than Augmented Ironworks Robe.
Are we sure that +31 DET is better than +5 INT ? We also lose some 16 CRIT.
Also, acc cap would be hard to get without the deadwyrm robe

What is the truth behind this ? Is a 120 item a better BiS than a 130 ?

This is an area where SMN is a bit too overcomplicated due to having a Pet.

The reason is because each of those stats effects the SMN and Pet at a different rate, as well as a different rate between even pet to pet. (i.e. Garuda benefits from Spell Speed but Ifrit gets 0 benefit)

A lot of what you will see is people like HavenChild pushing the limits of SMN and finding a noteable difference between gear sets. There is still a lot of work to really sort out the SMN stat weights, but considering the updates we may see in 3.0 there's no point now.

Here is a rough guide to follow, and is in no way 100% tested. (Ifrit only)

MAtk 4.1
INT 1
DET 0.24
Crit 0.14
SPD 0.0032

So that is equalized to 1 INT

[Sunako]

Garuda benefits from Spell Speed but Ifrit gets 0 benefit

I would not say totally 0 benefit since ifrit attack 2x more often so ifrit have 2x better chance spell speed trait proc for you. But well, almost useless still.