Fix Sumnmoner

[Eloah]

Even though I agree with what you're getting at...

Ultimecia: I shall junction myself... unto Griever.

Though not a summoner, I do say TOUCHE, lol

Shiva and Lady Iceheart aren't the same person. Saint Shiva is the woman who sided with the Dravanian Hord of Midgardsormr during the Ishgaurd War while Lady Iceheart is an Elezen Woman who is the leader of the Harriers. The people of Eorzea didn't summon the primal Pheonix they helped summon the power of the twelve but Louixoix summoned Pheonix by himself.
My suggestions are reasonable since SE to inspiration from the WoW Warlock to come up with Summoner
In 3.0 SE said they are only adding new job actions which means most of the Summoner's new abilities will like
based around the Pet we will be getting something akin to the WoW Demology Warlock spec where most of our rotation is focused around transforming into the Primal.

I never said outright, Lady Iceheart and Shiva are the same person, I said essentually they are; and even then I said it was debatable. But I will slightly clarify what I meant, Lady Iceheart and the "primal" Shiva are essentually the same person. But again we aren't fully aware of how this is being played with.

And where are you getting the info about Louisoix? The Bahamut story line even states that, "the prayers of everyone in Eorzea transformed him into the primal Phoenix." I'm not ever guessing here based on hearsay, that is literally what they say happened. Yes, It was his prayer too, but it was the combined prayers that allowed the twelve to answer His wish to save eorzea.

[Akiza]

All anyone has to do to see that a lot of players don't like the current iteration of Summoner is go to WoD and you'll see 5-6 Black Mages per Summoner. People think the Summoner doesn't feel like a Summoner at all it feels like Arcanist with Fester. Focusing the Summoner around using Aetherflow stacks and Transforming into the Primal by absorbing the Egi into their body will go along way into making the job feel like a Summoner.

[AmewKitsune]

All anyone has to do to see that a lot of players don't like the current iteration of Summoner is go to WoD and you'll see 5-6 Black Mages per Summoner. People think the Summoner doesn't feel like a Summoner at all it feels like Arcanist with Fester. Focusing the Summoner around using Aetherflow stacks and Transforming into the Primal by absorbing the Egi into their body will go along way into making the job feel like a Summoner.

Or..maybe people just like playing a burst damage class instead of a DoT/Pet Management class? I could say "There are 3-4 Monks per Dragoon in BCOB, it's clear that people thinks Dragoon sucks", but that doesn't mean anything. People like Black Mage because they like Black Mage. Shocker, right?

Also, "transforming into the primal" is better served on some kinda Demon Knight class. Never, in FF and beyond, have I heard of absorbing your summon into your body as a core gameplay mechanic. I'd personally rather would play puppet-master with it, controlling Ifrit, for example, at a distance and commanding it's attacks, which can go for rotation/GCDs/DoTs/etc. would "go a long way" to making it feel like a Summoner.

[Lilyarel]

^^^^
Summoner is the best class in the game, if you can't take it don't try, go back to black mage cause we summoners don't need you giving us a bad name.

THANK YOU!

Summoners viablility isnt in question. Its the visuals of the Summoner is what people hate.

[Trespar]

Rename Summoner to Arithmetician, revert egis to carbuncles. (including a red carbuncle)

Implement proper Summoner class later.

Why Arithmetician? Because they're nerds, like Arcanists and Scholars. And they use books.

[AmewKitsune]

Rename Summoner to Arithmetician, revert egis to carbuncles. (including a red carbuncle)

Implement proper Summoner class later.

Why Arithmetician? Because they're nerds, like Arcanists and Scholars. And they use books.

Calculate Level Prime Instant Death

gg all bosses

[Skeith-Adeline]

All anyone has to do to see that a lot of players don't like the current iteration of Summoner is go to WoD and you'll see 5-6 Black Mages per Summoner. People think the Summoner doesn't feel like a Summoner at all it feels like Arcanist with Fester. Focusing the Summoner around using Aetherflow stacks and Transforming into the Primal by absorbing the Egi into their body will go along way into making the job feel like a Summoner.

So you'd rather see the class become Animorphs instead >.>

[Akiza]

So you'd rather see the class become Animorphs instead >.>

Summoner's are already poison DoT bots so an Animorph will be an upgrade.

[Zaft]

Summoner's are already poison DoT bots so an Animorph will be an upgrade.

SMN is essentially an affliction warlock, and I'm 100% ok with that. The vocal minority does not represent the silent majority.

[Akiza]

SMN is essentially an affliction warlock, and I'm 100% ok with that. The vocal minority does not represent the silent majority.

That's just it there a there is a huge segment of population that doesn't like Summoner because aesthetically its an affliction warlock.