Rage Quit Ettiquite

[myahele]

I think if you've already been in the instance for 30 mins you should be able to leave without penalty

[radioactive_lego]

Why deal with penalty when you can:


Then go get a drink or bathroom and then requeue again for as many times as you want with absolutely no repercussion.

I've experienced this a few times recently, and have come to the conclusion that it is indeed a dick move. It's also counterintuitive. If you don't like a party, for whatever reason (usually because progress is stalled) going AFK is not going to progress you either. You're better off politely asking for an abandon, or to be kicked. As long as you played like an adult to begin with, I can't see a party not complying with your request. Once free (because you acted like an adult) you are on your way to recuing for another battle.

[DoctorPepper]

As long as you played like an adult to begin with, I can't see a party not complying with your request. Once free (because you acted like an adult) you are on your way to recuing for another battle.

I've seen an awful lot of people who were perfectly respectful and mature request a kick or try to abandon a duty that isn't working out, only to be ridiculed and held hostage by people and their ego. It would be fantastic if what you said in this quote was true but in my experience, most of the time I see people request a kick, it ends with them having to afk/dc in order to get it. Unfortunately it requires the rest of the party to become adults as well in order for this to work out.

[Nashred]

There is a reason they are called rage quitters and that is because they are quitters.. Mostly big babies. Seems most of the rage quitters are the real problems with a a run to begin with. I dont know how many tanks have left after a boss in a dungeon and we failed only to get another tank and walk through it. Rage quitters quit because they fail allot and are usually the ones being carried. Some think they are better than they are because they are carried other know if they dont have a perfect party they aint getting through because they are horrible and can not accept it.

Most after a while know if it is useless and are willing to abandon.

[Cirgellon]

Regardless of who you want to blame it doesn't even matter.

Bottom line is that if you don't kick people who want to leave they will afk or fake dc and that is not a punishable offense unless they're being excessively rude in chat. There is no way to prove somebody didn't legitimately need to go afk or that they didn't actually disconnect and it will never be punishable for that reason. Even if they threatened to do it in chat they could simply call it a bluff and then say that they actually had to go afk or disconnected, try and prove without a doubt that they didn't.

Nobody is forcing you to stop wasting your own/parties time so continue doing it if

Or.... you could stop acting like a two year old and just leave. If you are going to waste that time, why are you so worried about a penalty? Why are you trying to "punish" others just because you are impatient and immature?

[Eidolon]

Or.... you could stop acting like a two year old and just leave. If you are going to waste that time, why are you so worried about a penalty? Why are you trying to "punish" others just because you are impatient and immature?

I dislike these insults being thrown around about differences in playstyle.

"You're a baby because you won't just leave the duty and eat a 30 minute penalty!"
"You're a baby because you won't kick me after I asked nicely!"

Basically both sides scream at eachother and hurl as many insults as they want. But as others have said, I do think there is a problem with each side.

When someone is rude, and just says "Yuo guys suck, kick me or I'll go afk" then I can see you going on this vindictive crusade of 'justice.' That makes sense, if you choose to hamstring yourself with someone who doesn't want to be there because you believe they should be 'punished' even if you punish yourself. That's fine with me.

But does it make you any better when someone says "Hey guys, I don't think (I can keep doing this)/(We're going to succeed)/(I need to go do something else with friends in game that requires the duty finder), would you mind kicking me?" and your answer is "NO YOU SHOULDN'T OF QUE'D UNLESS YOU WERE READY TO STAY WITH US THE WHOLE TIME."

Both sides come off as petulant children when they try and force the other to their will. And both make themselves no better than the other when they respond in kind, in my eye.

[SalemP]

I don't understand the mindset of being held hostage. No one is holding you hostage. You are free to leave at any time. Your issue is that you don't want to face the consequence of your actions. Be an adult. And don't expect others to help you work around a system that is in place for a reason.

Funny thing is, I've been through tons of terrible parties/raids. And usually things smooth out after the first couple of rage quitters leave. Interesting that.

[myahele]

i think the reason why some people don't kick is because they already invested alot of time waiting in the DF for the queue to pop.

And more or then not, the people wanting to be kicked are Tanks/Healers (who typically fake dc) after only wiping once. Once a person is kicked that allows of others to leave without penalty and with so little people left there's really no point to stay

[Mercutial]

Funny thing is, I've been through tons of terrible parties/raids. And usually things smooth out after the first couple of rage quitters leave. Interesting that.

I forget what raid or primal it may have been (it's been awhile....), but I DO remember someone rage quitting after the first wipe in a clear party. We picked up a replacement and proceeded to one-shot whatever it was. Douchey McGee missed out on his clear and it was almost as satisfying as the actual victory.

[DoctorPepper]

Or.... you could stop acting like a two year old and just leave. If you are going to waste that time, why are you so worried about a penalty? Why are you trying to "punish" others just because you are impatient and immature?

lol I love the irony in this post.

Calling people who don't just leave a baby while continuing to be a baby yourself by not just kicking them definitely makes you the bigger person right?

I'm glad I'm not on either side of that equation, guess that makes me an adult.

Funny thing is, I've been through tons of terrible parties/raids. And usually things smooth out after the first couple of rage quitters leave. Interesting that.

Exactly, so why not just kick them when they ask and get it over with sooner. People think that they're upholding some kind of principal or punishing people by not kicking them but really you're just giving them the negative attention they long for and wasting your own time. They're going to dc or afk anyways, so just be the bigger person and kick them out, you can't enforce a rule that has multiple workarounds without hurting yourself in the process.