Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
I hate this mind set. I often wonder how did the first group doing Titan ever clear it without watching a video, and did they make a video while they did it so the second group could watch and so on?

I often see people in Titan say they are new and the most I usually see anyone say is "dodge stuff" while the MT or someone else is already pulling.
Moreover: this whole "watch a video" attitude is just mind-boggling. Makes me think that people like that literally can't imagine a world without YouTube and Twitch and MrHappy and whoever else - that they can't imagine that videogames existed before the internet, and people were able to play and complete them. It was not that long ago, y'know?

How about turning the table instead? If you know you don't have the time/patience for any random screw-up, just don't use the DF. Regardless of the lack of official policy about it, everyone knows that absolutely anything can happen in a DF run. And knowing that, it's just stupid to complain about "noobs who can't even watch a video".
On a personal sidenote: I wholly resent the idea of being forced to watch 3rd party videos, when we're denied the opportunity to enjoy the game's own ones, at their designated places (yes, I mostly mean Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium, the kicks, the lockouts, the fighting and namecalling, everything that's been discussed to no end on here).

I just gave another try to Titan Ex myself, via DF, and - the group was not doing good. The question "everyone know what to do?" was asked at the beginning, but by the time anyone could even have started to type the answer, Titan was pulled. One of the tanks seemed obviously new to the duty, so after the first wipe, the other told him to "switch at 3" - and when we wiped a 2nd time, he went "i'm sorry warr but we have to kick you, you came at 2 stacks and that confused me". Vote dismiss initiated, and the poor guy was kicked. "That should teach him! " and "he was so clueless lol :P" ensued. And so I left too, because I voted no, because I didn't agree with it - the tank might have been clueless, but it was not only his fault we failed, some just couldn't dodge, and most people didn't even try stacking up, they were spread out like butter on a piece of toast. Anyhow, on one hand, yes, kicking someone who's obviously new and want to try, will really help them know the fight indeed, congrats on that logic. On the other hand, if you really are so impatient, like I said, just don't do DF. You're not forced to. If you want 15min speedruns to get your drop or cap your tomes, surely you have a group of people with the same goals whom you can do it with - faster, simpler, you don't get upset yourself and you don't aggravate others either.