Heavensward. Something is missing?

[Scott]

The Attack on Highbridge (East Than) and Breaching/Clearing/Defending/Keeping the Hive (South Shroud) FATE chains determine the availability of a Merchant who sells a minion depending on whether or not the FATEs were completed. The Poor Maid's (Upper LN) FATE chain was supposed to be another, but it broke.

If these types of FATEs are what they mean by "Large-scale FATEs," then that may be what you are looking for.

Yeah my hope lie with the Large Scale FATE. But I don't think they will give the great big Systems of Besieged and Capaign justice.
But only time will tell.

[Obysuca]

It's an expansion. Not a 1.0 -> 2.0 remake.

The game will likely be 2.0 again but in a different environment with a couple more features here and there. Get used to it as all further expansions will likely be the same.

Which tbh, is already pretty stale >_> log on, cap tomes, log off is how 3.0 is looking to be again. People getting bored of that? Let's add more of the same thing!

[SongJoohee]

Which tbh, is already pretty stale >_> log on, cap tomes, log off is how 3.0 is looking to be again. People getting bored of that? Let's add more of the same thing!

And this system has caused FFXIV to be the most successful subscription based MMOs for years. Why would they change something that's working fine for them?

If you're bored of it, then stop playing, no one forces you to stay subscribed.

[Scott]

Because stagnation isn't a good thing :P
You should go forward. Keep the base solid but surprise your costumers with new fres ideas so they want to stay

[Stanelis]

And this system has caused FFXIV to be the most successful subscription based MMOs for years. Why would they change something that's working fine for them?

If you're bored of it, then stop playing, no one forces you to stay subscribed.

Because people are getting bored of that model, and I don't think it is actually currently doing that well (according to the number of FFXIV twitch viewers).

[Obysuca]

Because people are getting bored of that model, and I don't think it is actually currently doing that well (according to the number of FFXIV twitch viewers).

This. And it'll only get worse if they keep throwing the same stuff at us.

Because stagnation isn't a good thing :P
You should go forward. Keep the base solid but surprise your costumers with new fres ideas so they want to stay

Exactly, there's no real staying power in XIV atm, considering every mmo pretty much does the same thing, sometimes better than XIV does. Maybe if they actually put the multiplayer back in mmo, then friends would be a staying power, but looking at fc/ls/friends list and just looking around the game in general, a lot of people don't stay long. Don't even try to argue that it's wrong, just take a look at your own fc/friends list, how many of them haven't been on in months or only played for 1-2 months and dropped XIV completely? Anyone remember a time when players wouldn't quit this fast on a mmo, especially only a year after release (tbh, a lot dropped out before 2.1 because of the model), Pepperidge farm remembers.

[Remus]

Because people are getting bored of that model, and I don't think it is actually currently doing that well (according to the number of FFXIV twitch viewers).

Did you check how many NicoNico had?

[Joshyuchiha]

Some people will never be satisfied until they turn the game into a copy of FFXI but HD...

[Obysuca]

they turn the game into a copy of FFXI but HD...

You mean a game that's lasted 12+ years on a subscription model and still makes money, unlike the vast amount of WoW model clones that die off in a few months/year? Sure sounds like XI did something right

[Scott]

Some people will never be satisfied until they turn the game into a copy of FFXI but HD...

Well I would prefer to get a few good things from FFXI over staying in an eternal loop of World of Eorzea