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    Quote Originally Posted by Divine_Intervention View Post

    Before Adds:
    Eye for Eye Tank > Rouse > Fey Illumination > Succor
    Depending on the situation I normally save Rouse and/or Fey for when you know youll be taking high damage. With the semi-long cooldown on both I would save them for "oh shit" moments or preemptive healing that you know you're gonna need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by radioactive_lego View Post
    I know a lot of folks like to micro-manage their pet (and for some of the heally-rard (see what I did there?) endgame funzies it's needed) but for most content, g'head and let Eos be free!
    Only if you trust the tank. EOS, I've found so far doing low-level prefers to tank if you leave her on Sic, coming from WHM this seems like a step backwards (as she will throw out Whispering Dawn for no reason, which has the same effect as Medica II's regen) and should probably leave EOS on obey if the tank can't deal with it. Yeah sure she will heal herself too, but it's probably no fun for the tank to constantly keep losing Enmity to the fairy.
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    Last edited by KisaiTenshi; 04-07-2015 at 12:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Only if you trust the tank. EOS, I've found so far doing low-level prefers to tank if you leave her on Sic, coming from WHM this seems like a step backwards (as she will throw out Whispering Dawn for no reason, which has the same effect as Medica II's regen) and should probably leave EOS on obey if the tank can't deal with it. Yeah sure she will heal herself too, but it's probably no fun for the tank to constantly keep losing Enmity to the fairy.
    No Sic. For any reason. Ever.

    If for some reason you want to screw with the tank and have Eos pull aggro, you can accomplish that manually :P
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    Sic is a terrible thing that should never be used ever ever ever. One of the best tools a SCH has is the ability to manually Embrace, don't take that away by leaving your fairy in Sic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerOrange View Post
    Sic is a terrible thing that should never be used ever ever ever. One of the best tools a SCH has is the ability to manually Embrace, don't take that away by leaving your fairy in Sic.
    While technically correct, this only helps if you want to pre cast embrace before someone is below the 80% treshold.
    Obey won't stop her from autocasting embraces which you cannot reliably interrupt to direct her to a different target and the bigger argument for obey imo is mostly controlling the buffs.
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    Manual Embrace spam is an absolutely huge thing in stuff like FCoB. You can fairly reliably force the fairy into casting on the target that you want. For example, in T10 I deal with all preys, so for the double and staggered preys I Adlo the necessary targets, while getting Selene to Embrace the MT.

    Even with multiple targets below 80%, it is still very easy to control who your fairy heals.
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    I find fairly reliable (esp. in case of MT healing) not reliable enough.
    A split second passed and you mash your embrace button while she heals another target - thats my impression after all.

    I'm not saying trying to gain more control over embrace is a bad thing, by any means do it if it doesn't interfere with your gameplay, but I couldn't find it worth the hassle.

    Granted I only have 3 kills in this yet, but in the particular case of T10 my group lets the WHM heal solo during adds while I handle Prey, DPS and the fairy does her thing to top off party members and/or the tanks, and I feel absolutley no need to force her on one of the tanks; it's a computer after all, can't beat her reaction time on party members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoekes View Post
    I find fairly reliable (esp. in case of MT healing) not reliable enough.
    A split second passed and you mash your embrace button while she heals another target - thats my impression after all.

    I'm not saying trying to gain more control over embrace is a bad thing, by any means do it if it doesn't interfere with your gameplay, but I couldn't find it worth the hassle.

    Granted I only have 3 kills in this yet, but in the particular case of T10 my group lets the WHM heal solo during adds while I handle Prey, DPS and the fairy does her thing to top off party members and/or the tanks, and I feel absolutley no need to force her on one of the tanks; it's a computer after all, can't beat her reaction time on party members.
    To use that T10 example, party members don't take damage at all except from specific, unavoidable mechanics if the raid goes properly, so forcing the fairy to heal your tank of choice in the meantime serves to A) help decrease the WHM's workload or B) extend your window of all-out DPS.

    The B situation works well for me because I claim a tank for each add phase and keep it topped off while I DPS, allowing the WHM take care of the other tank and do whatever else he wants to do. If I don't direct the fairy and wait for the tank to drop below 80% before she even begins to cast, I might be forced to take more breaks from DPS or even blow stacks on Lustrate instead of Energy Drain if someone derps and fails to trigger tail strikes, causing my tank to take more damage than anticipated.
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    I see the point, its most likely just a matter of bad execution on my side and so it feels like a hassle to me.
    Got to get better musclememory on SCH still to get this thing going more smooothly I guess.
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    macros every SCH should have or you're failing (especially console players with limited space)

    /macroicon Rouse
    /ac Rouse
    /wait
    /pac Fey Illumination
    /wait
    /pac Whispering Dawn

    Wait until Rouse is Up again and spam it for
    Rouse + Whispering Dawn


    /macroicon resurrection
    /ac swiftcast <me>
    /wait
    /ac resurrection <t>


    manually embrace.....trust me you don't want Eos/Selene to be healing some random splash damage on a DPS , compared to +2200-2800 on a Tank that's getting ready to get blasted
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