New Scholaring!

[Divine_Intervention]

Thanks! I just did t5 to help an fc member through it (we didn't get the kill for him :/ ) he had a bit of trouble so i pretty much solo healed it down to 12%

Found that being able to manually spam embrace while locked in conflag rocks !

And yeah, i'm really gonna have to try attaching a mouse to my keyboard and try these things out xD Although i have no idea how pc players manage their mouse, keyboard controlling all their abilities, moving around AND actually managing to type a full sentence rather quickly through all that lmao.

[Wizarus]

Selene makes a difference? I've never once heard anyone complain about me using Eos, but I have gotten complaints about me using Selene. At the very least, I'm in Cleric Stance a whole lot more when I'm using Eos.

[Cynfael]

Selene makes a difference? I've never once heard anyone complain about me using Eos, but I have gotten complaints about me using Selene. At the very least, I'm in Cleric Stance a whole lot more when I'm using Eos.

Selene makes a marginal difference overall. BLMs tend to benefit the most since they are constantly chaining hard-casts and have no resource issues, hence are likely to stack high base spell speed.

Aside from being loved by BLMs, Selene is the only reasonable choice in situations where Eos is completely redundant.

[giantslayer]

You have virtually no control over the faerie when conditions for auto casting are met, so manual casting is for when she won't do it on her own. There is a little more to it than just the 80% health: she only auto-casts within 21 yalms.

I have written a fairly exhaustive guide on faeries that goes into this and much more in great detail. For the OP, I am a fellow PS4 player, so I think you will find it to be very helpful. Check my signature for the link.

[Divine_Intervention]

Hey guys! How are you?

I just tried T10 on scholar today, and i gotta say that WASN'T comfortable. I mean i realise i have about a year extra experience on white mage, but as a scholar i had trouble managing my mana effectively, wasn't helping catch up on group healse (post wild charge for ex) and just generally felt i wasn't doing a great job.

Does anyone have advice for a new scholar to this fight please? I tried looking for Scholar guides to this on YT etc, but nothing useful there!!

Hope your all having a great week, and take care

[Cynfael]

Does anyone have advice for a new scholar to this fight please? I tried looking for Scholar guides to this on YT etc, but nothing useful there!!

Hope your all having a great week, and take care

- Have an agreement with your (presumably) WHM co-healer as to who will handle Prey during which phase and what priority system you will use. In my group the WHM handles single Preys except when Crit Rip goes out simultaneously. I also call out my target in Mumble to help avoid redundancy.

- Choose a tank to babysit for add phases.

- Lay down Soil and (and of course pre-Succor) for Tethers and Charges in final phase to help counter small mistakes and reduce the healing needed after.

- If everything goes well, you should be able to DPS for most of the fight. It's not very healing-intensive, and either class can solo the healing requirement.

[Divine_Intervention]

Hi Cynfael, thanks for dropping by again, i appreciate the time your putting in on this thread

For your first two points, that's something i've got in place in a macro for every time i enter coil, so that's all down (although i need to get in the habit of going to single preys ^^)

Your last two points are more what i'm aiming for i guess, general information on how to add the extra abilities we have as scholars into the mix, and when it's good to use certain things. Do we have any good options for helping group heal in this, what's good for pre-curing (still working on that as scholar, mainly adlo+manual embrace and hope it lands in time lol!) and all that sort of thing

Ultimately your last point is my main aim, to make it so i'm comfortable enough to spend as much uptime dpsing in the fight as possible, which i think i'll be able to do once i've got used to the healing flow of the fight as a scholar.

[Cynfael]

Hi Cynfael, thanks for dropping by again, i appreciate the time your putting in on this thread

For your first two points, that's something i've got in place in a macro for every time i enter coil, so that's all down (although i need to get in the habit of going to single preys ^^)

Your last two points are more what i'm aiming for i guess, general information on how to add the extra abilities we have as scholars into the mix, and when it's good to use certain things. Do we have any good options for helping group heal in this, what's good for pre-curing (still working on that as scholar, mainly adlo+manual embrace and hope it lands in time lol!) and all that sort of thing

Ultimately your last point is my main aim, to make it so i'm comfortable enough to spend as much uptime dpsing in the fight as possible, which i think i'll be able to do once i've got used to the healing flow of the fight as a scholar.

Np, hope to help at least a little

I'll try to get more into specifics:

- As I said, I don't heal all that much throughout the fight except for specific mechanics and to direct manual Embrace (usually means spamming on the MT). I up my healing output as the fight draws closer to the end just to ensure smooth completion. At this point the people I usually play with have no difficulty exceeding the DPS required to avoid enrage even if I pull back on DPS somewhat.

- For AoEs, especially as the fight progresses and the margin for error becomes smaller, I Succor before and during/after raid-wide or large-group damaging mechanics. This way there is always a shield on most or all party members, which can be a significant difference if someone screws up, dies, and causes Imdugud to smite the arena when people already have vulnerability debuffs on them.

- If using Eos, I pop Fey Covenant in addition to Soil for a final phase Tether/Charge combo to increase chance of survival in the case of player error. Also helpful if you are still progressing and have people with relatively low max HP.

- For healing up after, that's largely the WHM's job, but I'll throw up the pre/post-hit Succors and add a Whispering Dawn if Eos is out and I want to alleviate the WHM's workload or add the HoT just to help someone who could die from being Charged into the lightning field (helps to counter sloppy soaking). I'll direct Embraces to help top people off between mechanics so that the WHM doesn't need to waste a GCD.

- During late-phase Wild Charge, I'm ready to Lustrate the main target if they get hit for too much while being pushed back into the field. I've saved people on several occasions by squeezing in a Lustrate before the lightning ticked and killed them. This shouldn't be necessary except that some people don't line up correctly for Wild Charge, or else something goes wrong with the Tether or Heat Lightning bit, and not all the soakers are available.

- At this point I find most of the mechanics (when properly handled) so non-threatening to my group that I save my Virus after the first or second one just in case something goes wrong later in the fight. You'll generally want to Virus the first Critical Rip since you have no other use for it, anyway. After that you can Virus to mitigate Imdugud's phase-transition AoE after add waves if you like, or whatever.

- I E4E my tank at the start of each add phase, Adlo him, Adlo my Prey target, re-Adlo my tank, and resume DoT/Bane etc. I continue DPS on living adds until I know Prey is about to go out again, handle that, and resume DPS while continuing to spam Embraces. During the second add phase, I basically repeat this procedure as my tank acquires fresh adds to get him stabilized and resume DPS as I'm able.

- My Swiftcast is for Shadow Flare. I don't expect people to die, and if they do, we probably didn't need them for a few seconds, anyway. My WHM reserves SC for emergencies, so I let him Raise if it's urgent.

The whole process is very formulaic, but if you want to play support DPS/support heal style, one thing is REALLY important: your WHM can't be bad. Or even mediocre. I've tried it with WHMs who appear to be lagging IRL, and it's a disaster. If you can't trust your co-healer, bad things are likely to happen, and WHMs who aren't anticipating damage spikes and/or are extremely slow to react will make you want to have them DPS while you solo heal, since it's less nerve-wracking that way.

[YukariOro]

I use a ton of macros that use embrace. I have embrace macro'd into leech, into Eye for an Eye, and Aldo. The reasoning, as a fellow scholar told me, for adding embrace to Leech, was that "If you're having to cleanse someone they are probably going to need a heal as well." I also have Rouse and Whispering Wind Macro'd together, and Rouse and Fey Covenant macro'd together.

I also have it set up so that my pet casts Fey Illumnation when I toss out Sacred Soil. Granted, sometimes Fey Illumination is on cooldown, but it's nice to have the pet cast it as well when it's not. Personally I find healing on Sch incredibly easy as a result of macro'ing in the pet abilities. I mostly have only macro'd in for Eos, not for Selene.

Still use my pet bar as needed, but I find those macros really do help a ton, and I think a lot of scholars under-utilize macros, tbh.

Also, if you have a WHM in your party, I never cast Protect or Stoneskin at the start of a fight, unless they for some reason aren't, since the WHM protect and stoneskin is buffed and the Scholar's is not.

[YukariOro]

Sic is a terrible thing that should never be used ever ever ever. One of the best tools a SCH has is the ability to manually Embrace, don't take that away by leaving your fairy in Sic.

The only time I use Sic on my fairy is if I'm running a low level dungeon where the fairy can do most of the healing, and my healing would tend to draw more enmity than my dps'ing the place. =) I still keep an eye on Eos tho in these cases, she's not perfect at healing and sometimes stuff does happen and I will need to toss out a heal here and there.