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[Divine_Intervention]

Hi Cynfael, thanks for dropping by again, i appreciate the time your putting in on this thread

For your first two points, that's something i've got in place in a macro for every time i enter coil, so that's all down (although i need to get in the habit of going to single preys ^^)

Your last two points are more what i'm aiming for i guess, general information on how to add the extra abilities we have as scholars into the mix, and when it's good to use certain things. Do we have any good options for helping group heal in this, what's good for pre-curing (still working on that as scholar, mainly adlo+manual embrace and hope it lands in time lol!) and all that sort of thing

Ultimately your last point is my main aim, to make it so i'm comfortable enough to spend as much uptime dpsing in the fight as possible, which i think i'll be able to do once i've got used to the healing flow of the fight as a scholar.

[Cynfael]

Hi Cynfael, thanks for dropping by again, i appreciate the time your putting in on this thread

For your first two points, that's something i've got in place in a macro for every time i enter coil, so that's all down (although i need to get in the habit of going to single preys ^^)

Your last two points are more what i'm aiming for i guess, general information on how to add the extra abilities we have as scholars into the mix, and when it's good to use certain things. Do we have any good options for helping group heal in this, what's good for pre-curing (still working on that as scholar, mainly adlo+manual embrace and hope it lands in time lol!) and all that sort of thing

Ultimately your last point is my main aim, to make it so i'm comfortable enough to spend as much uptime dpsing in the fight as possible, which i think i'll be able to do once i've got used to the healing flow of the fight as a scholar.

Np, hope to help at least a little

I'll try to get more into specifics:

- As I said, I don't heal all that much throughout the fight except for specific mechanics and to direct manual Embrace (usually means spamming on the MT). I up my healing output as the fight draws closer to the end just to ensure smooth completion. At this point the people I usually play with have no difficulty exceeding the DPS required to avoid enrage even if I pull back on DPS somewhat.

- For AoEs, especially as the fight progresses and the margin for error becomes smaller, I Succor before and during/after raid-wide or large-group damaging mechanics. This way there is always a shield on most or all party members, which can be a significant difference if someone screws up, dies, and causes Imdugud to smite the arena when people already have vulnerability debuffs on them.

- If using Eos, I pop Fey Covenant in addition to Soil for a final phase Tether/Charge combo to increase chance of survival in the case of player error. Also helpful if you are still progressing and have people with relatively low max HP.

- For healing up after, that's largely the WHM's job, but I'll throw up the pre/post-hit Succors and add a Whispering Dawn if Eos is out and I want to alleviate the WHM's workload or add the HoT just to help someone who could die from being Charged into the lightning field (helps to counter sloppy soaking). I'll direct Embraces to help top people off between mechanics so that the WHM doesn't need to waste a GCD.

- During late-phase Wild Charge, I'm ready to Lustrate the main target if they get hit for too much while being pushed back into the field. I've saved people on several occasions by squeezing in a Lustrate before the lightning ticked and killed them. This shouldn't be necessary except that some people don't line up correctly for Wild Charge, or else something goes wrong with the Tether or Heat Lightning bit, and not all the soakers are available.

- At this point I find most of the mechanics (when properly handled) so non-threatening to my group that I save my Virus after the first or second one just in case something goes wrong later in the fight. You'll generally want to Virus the first Critical Rip since you have no other use for it, anyway. After that you can Virus to mitigate Imdugud's phase-transition AoE after add waves if you like, or whatever.

- I E4E my tank at the start of each add phase, Adlo him, Adlo my Prey target, re-Adlo my tank, and resume DoT/Bane etc. I continue DPS on living adds until I know Prey is about to go out again, handle that, and resume DPS while continuing to spam Embraces. During the second add phase, I basically repeat this procedure as my tank acquires fresh adds to get him stabilized and resume DPS as I'm able.

- My Swiftcast is for Shadow Flare. I don't expect people to die, and if they do, we probably didn't need them for a few seconds, anyway. My WHM reserves SC for emergencies, so I let him Raise if it's urgent.

The whole process is very formulaic, but if you want to play support DPS/support heal style, one thing is REALLY important: your WHM can't be bad. Or even mediocre. I've tried it with WHMs who appear to be lagging IRL, and it's a disaster. If you can't trust your co-healer, bad things are likely to happen, and WHMs who aren't anticipating damage spikes and/or are extremely slow to react will make you want to have them DPS while you solo heal, since it's less nerve-wracking that way.

[YukariOro]

I use a ton of macros that use embrace. I have embrace macro'd into leech, into Eye for an Eye, and Aldo. The reasoning, as a fellow scholar told me, for adding embrace to Leech, was that "If you're having to cleanse someone they are probably going to need a heal as well." I also have Rouse and Whispering Wind Macro'd together, and Rouse and Fey Covenant macro'd together.

I also have it set up so that my pet casts Fey Illumnation when I toss out Sacred Soil. Granted, sometimes Fey Illumination is on cooldown, but it's nice to have the pet cast it as well when it's not. Personally I find healing on Sch incredibly easy as a result of macro'ing in the pet abilities. I mostly have only macro'd in for Eos, not for Selene.

Still use my pet bar as needed, but I find those macros really do help a ton, and I think a lot of scholars under-utilize macros, tbh.

Also, if you have a WHM in your party, I never cast Protect or Stoneskin at the start of a fight, unless they for some reason aren't, since the WHM protect and stoneskin is buffed and the Scholar's is not.