Patch 2.55 new card NPC's and changes to rules & card sets.

[Shinun]

Yet I'm well into my 400+ wins with -nothing- to show for it. Does that kind of RNG, with no system of reward in place for trying for hours and hours, really sound appealing to you?

Yes, because your not the only person who's done that. I'm now at 75/80 cards. Some cards took me over a day straight of farming without sleep on a weekend. It made the enjoyment of getting the card more enjoyable. It also made the games more enjoyable on some of the npcs before nerf that I had a mid or low chance of winning on. And it's not a system with no rewards. Even if your not getting your card your gaining mgp without it being the focal point of the grind.

[thendcomes]

i said OVER THE TOP rng mate. not rng in general. a bit of rng is okey. but i am mainly thinking about coil loot when i say this and less about tt even tough tt has the same issues.

Yeah, that's what I am saying too. You said rng crap, so I said rng crap. That refers to over to the top RNG. There has been a sharp increase in rng crap every patch since 2.0. There are no signs of it stopping, so again, if you are only playing in the hopes that it will not continue, you should quit now while you can.

[Reyll]

Yes, because your not the only person who's done that. I'm now at 75/80 cards. Some cards took me over a day straight of farming without sleep on a weekend. It made the enjoyment of getting the card more enjoyable. It also made the games more enjoyable on some of the npcs before nerf that I had a mid or low chance of winning on. And it's not a system with no rewards. Even if your not getting your card your gaining mgp without it being the focal point of the grind.

So because you have ridiculously good RNG to have 75 cards (may I point to the other thread that took a guy WEEKS to get the Terra card) -and- you have spent "days without sleep on a weekend" means we should ALL have to do that and that the system is okay? Okay.

[Shinun]

So because you have ridiculously good RNG to have 75 cards (may I point to the other thread that took a guy WEEKS to get the Terra card) -and- you have spent "days without sleep on a weekend" means we should ALL have to do that and that the system is okay? Okay.

No but complaining that your not getting anything when your infact at the very least earning MGP for your time. Drop rate tables always have rng. They may increase it but, as it is plenty of people are getting their cards, others arent that's how its supposed to be. Just because your doing content and winning doesn't mean you should be entitled to a drop after so many wins. The content is supposed to last for months having them change it too much will have no one left farming the npcs. Either keep enjoying the content or, do something else.

[Reyll]

No but complaining that your not getting anything when your infact at the very least earning MGP for your time. Drop rate tables always have rng. They may increase it but, as it is plenty of people are getting their cards, others arent that's how its supposed to be. Just because your doing content and winning doesn't mean you should be entitled to a drop after so many wins. The content is supposed to last for months having them change it too much will have no one left farming the npcs. Either keep enjoying the content or, do something else.

That reasoning is horribly flawed. Refer to this: https://youtu.be/3d9BS7Gj1d8?t=11m5s

The FIRST question presented at Fanfest was about a token system for those who have tried at something but haven't gotten what they needed. They said it was the most popular question and had the most likes, so I'm sorry, but I'm not buying what you're trying to sell.

[Centershock]

No but complaining that your not getting anything when your infact at the very least earning MGP for your time. Drop rate tables always have rng. They may increase it but, as it is plenty of people are getting their cards, others arent that's how its supposed to be. Just because your doing content and winning doesn't mean you should be entitled to a drop after so many wins. The content is supposed to last for months having them change it too much will have no one left farming the npcs. Either keep enjoying the content or, do something else.

This is priceless coming from someone who actually has the time to play this game for "days without sleep on a weekend".

[Shinun]

That reasoning is horribly flawed. Refer to this: https://youtu.be/3d9BS7Gj1d8?t=11m5s

The FIRST question presented at Fanfest was about a token system for those who have tried at something but haven't gotten what they needed. They said it was the most popular question and had the most likes, so I'm sorry, but I'm not buying what you're trying to sell.

So a question about gear progression that also is influenced by weekly lockouts that you have limited chests of per week should apply to a minigame that most NPCs can be spammed with no downtime, or at the very most some small ingame wait between?

[Reyll]

So a question about gear progression that also is influenced by weekly lockouts that you have limited chests of per week should apply to a minigame that most NPCs can be spammed with no downtime, or at the very most some small ingame wait between?

Once again, I refer you to the other thread about the guy who farmed Ultros until his eyes almost bled for his Terra card, and it is one of the longest threads on this forum. Yeah, I think my reasoning still applies.

[Shinun]

Once again, I refer you to the other thread about the guy who farmed Ultros until his eyes almost bled for his Terra card, and it is one of the longest threads on this forum. Yeah, I think my reasoning still applies.

And yet even with RNG to the EXTREME they have the card and the next content update is still months away. You can farm Terra w/e you want, The 650-700 Ultros they farmed in 3 weeks. Coil players would only get 3 chances at their drops. SE will prob raise the % at a later date. Their is no reason anytime soon for them to change it when for the next 3 months their will be no new content

[Reyll]

And yet even with RNG to the EXTREME they have the card and the next content update is still months away. You can farm Terra w/e you want, The 650-700 Ultros they farmed in 3 weeks. Coil players would only get 3 chances at their drops. SE will prob raise the % at a later date. Their is no reason anytime soon for them to change it when for the next 3 months their will be no new content

You have managed to completely miss the point I was trying to make. You think spending hours and days and losing sleep trying to grind for something that is completely reliant on RNG and has no chance of award for those who cannot afford to do that is okay. You also do not know the difference between "their" and "there", so I'm done trying to convince you otherwise. The system is flawed, period.