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  1. #101
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    Fenral's Avatar
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    W'fharl Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    ...It's mostly that parting smile that made me kind of suspicious. I hope it was just SE trying to be ambiguous, though x.x
    Naw, that wasn't suspicious behavior, she was just raising her own death flag. I took it as a rather poor-taste parody of what happened with Moenbryda.
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  2. #102
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    Lucke Arrayo
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    The thing that really bothers me is the evacuation scene. We just stand by and let our friends fight while we run away. My guy woulda stood by with the Scions in their last stand, and Lu wouldn't have left Min alone. This entire time I was actually hoping for a battle part where we fight with each of the scions holding off wave after wave of bad guy, but no, we run away like cowards. Like seriously, we fought primals/Garleans/Ultima/Beastymen, and we run away from puny mercs?
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  3. #103
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    Ibi Risasi
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    Yugiri says that she lost her mask in the struggle in Limsa Lominsa while rescuing Tataru.

    Doesn't that imply that the half-dragon person has just been wandering around Coerthas with no mask on? And everyone's completely chill about that? Or is it just supposed to be a case of "Oh, she's a ninja, she probably just vanishes into the shadows whenever anyone is around."
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  4. #104
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    Applesnap's Avatar
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    Coco Delouix
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    The thing that really bothers me is the evacuation scene. We just stand by and let our friends fight while we run away. My guy woulda stood by with the Scions in their last stand, and Lu wouldn't have left Min alone.
    That's the problem with a forced story arc. Most of us at some point will disagree with the path our characters are shoved towards in the main story quests, but I understand why it has to be done. I protested at several decisions in the story arc too (Coco never would have done those things), but the alternative isn't attractive. Writing staff would be looking at hundreds of potential cutscenes, conversations, battles, confrontations ... you name it. And trying to craft a cohesive story that matches up with every single person's individual path and STILL makes sense? Take it from me as a writer; it's an absolute nightmare and you avoid that wherever you can.

    Want an example of where it happened and self-imploded? Mass Effect 3.
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  5. #105
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    My Thoughts

    Some curious things leading up to the final showdown.

    Merl and Kan-E reluctance to offer support to Ishgard, while Raubahn kind of has a look like "are we going to help or what?"

    Tataru is acting very strange, like she knows something is about to go down.

    Lolorito's look of reluctance of the events that just occurred. Is he a bad guy?

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    It has been mentioned that Ul'dah is "rotten to the core". What if the events were all staged as an attempt to bring the "rot" out to the surface.
    Nanamo could of announced resigning as Queen and gave the power to the people, but how many people had already been bought, how would it prevent the Moneterists from still coming to power?

    I feel that Merl, and Kan-E were in on it, but many felt Raubahn would not risk Nanamo's safety in such a plan. I think they were reluctant to offer support to Ishgard knowing what was about to happen.

    I dare say that as few as absolutely required were in on it for the sake of staging an unbelievable rouse for those who are sucking the life from Ul'dah to feel safe enough to come forth and show their true intentions. (the rot among the apple)
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 04-02-2015 at 04:32 AM.

  6. #106
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    I'm not going to give much details, but if you guys are a PLD. There is some information that maybe interested for them.
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  7. #107
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    Cirina Ejinn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Applesnap View Post
    Want an example of where it happened and self-imploded? Mass Effect 3.
    True, and while all the available choices ended up in essentially the same result, at least there was a choice. (Although I don't think any choices in XIV would have the galaxy changing results that ME3 had).

    Lore-wise, my issues with the PC's actions aside, my biggest disappointment was Yugiri's reveal. There is just a moment of slight surprise and everyone moves on like it's nothing and her appearance is no big deal. I expected at least some sort of mention of who the Au'ra are, why we never see them and why come Heavensward, there are going to be a bunch of them running around Eorzea when previously there were none. Unless they're going with the "They were here the whole time, just disguised with Galmour/Fantasia" route, which I feel would be a huge cop out.
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  8. #108
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    Eh, I imagine it'll be brought up in time, but at the moment there was a bit more going on. I'm guessing that after being betrayed, losing the people who stood by your side, and in general being pretty much at your bleakest moment, it would be very odd to go into a long talk of why Yugiri looks like she does, or things like that. Betting it'll come up in 3.0 at some point, but it's really not the time or the place for it.
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  9. #109
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    Kani Kani
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sushikins View Post
    Lore-wise, my issues with the PC's actions aside, my biggest disappointment was Yugiri's reveal. There is just a moment of slight surprise and everyone moves on like it's nothing and her appearance is no big deal. I expected at least some sort of mention of who the Au'ra are, why we never see them and why come Heavensward, there are going to be a bunch of them running around Eorzea when previously there were none. Unless they're going with the "They were here the whole time, just disguised with Galmour/Fantasia" route, which I feel would be a huge cop out.
    The stance could be made that you always kind of knew Yugiri looked different, and while you were surprised at how she looked for a bit you just got distracted by everything that happened.

    I think it would break the flow if they tried to explain who the Au'Ra are considering when she was revealed. I think they'll probably do it soon as the expansion draws near, but not yet.
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    I'm not going to give much details, but if you guys are a PLD. There is some information that maybe interested for them.
    Doesn't mean what you think. It's a pretty classic political move, actually, and absolutely doesn't change what we know really happened.
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