Thread: Revelations from Patch 2.55 [SPOILERS]

Originally Posted by ruskie

While some people seem saddened/infuriated by the reactions of the other leaders the way I see it: you are a guest of another city state that is having it's own internal affairs - it is not your place to meddle in the affairs of their state. For me if anything the respect for both leaders grew at that point; their bodyguards understood that - which is why they got reminded about it.

I'd buy that if a few cutscenes before they hadn't stressed how important the alliance between the three nations is, to the point of even ignoring Ishgard's plea in favour of defending their alliance. Then, when the alliance unravels before their very eyes and an important leader and friend of said alliance gets attacked, they just leave? Wut? So much for the Eorzean Alliance coming second, Merlwyb.

I still have my suspicions about Nanamo Ul Namo's fate. For those who say it would cheapen the drama of Rhaubahn's rampage if she was alive, I disagree. Fact is, we saw her drink from the cup and fall to the ground. Nobody checked her pulse. Rhaubahn only got told she was dead, he was not allowed to go see her and her death was "confirmed" by the lady-in-waiting who was in cahoots with Teledji and Lolorito, so her word is without any value. The scene afterwards with Lolorito and the lady-in-waiting in the hallway also further raises my suspicions. There are poisons that can make a person look and feel dead, only to awaken again when given the antidote. It's often used by important characters to fake their deaths (Captain America: The Winter Soldier springs to mind as an example). It could be they intended to fake the Sultana's death to make Rhaubahn commit treason, then keep her alive to keep him and the Immortal Flames in check while he's in jail. I don't know, something just feels off about the whole thing.

Or she really is dead and that's the end of it.

I also have to agree with those who find Tataru's behaviour suspicious. It's hard to deny that something was off about her during her quest in Limsa Lominsa. I do admit, though, that I'd be really dissapointed if it turns out she's a traitor. If that were true, then I'd really lose my faith in anyone, for if even sweet, kind and lovable Tataru stabs us in the back, then who can we trust, really? She always was the energetic, optimistic and unshakably moral supporting stone of our group. And at first, I didn't find her desire to learn how to protect herself all that strange; it made sense to me, given how Moenbryda had died in Minfilia's very office only a day before, just like how the Garleans stormed in and wiped out the Waking Sands. It made sense to me that seeing all that would push Tataru to want to learn how to defend herself. If that had been it, it would have made for a cute, funny but also warm and touching storyline. Then they threw in that smile she gave us over her shoulder at the end in Costa Del Sol. All my red flags were raised.

I don't know, her tears while talking to Alphinaud seemed genuine, but I do wonder why she'd push us to go to Ishgard. There are other places we could hide for the moment, like with Urianger (and boy did SE pour a bucket of ice cold water over us with him) at the Waking Sands. Why insist on going to Ishgard so strongly? I'm really torn between thinking she's just her genuine, adorable self... or thinking all those red flags in my mind were raised for a reason and something suspicious is going on. Gaah, if anything, SE did a great job making us feel isolated and completely unsure of who to trust (aside from the ever affectionate Haurchefant).

There's a lot to think about, a lot of stuff to digest and a lot of questions I want answered very badly. Heavensward can't come fast enough.

Originally Posted by Alberel

The readings he was getting all around South Shroud had him in a panic as something looks to be draining the aether there. I don't think a quest like that was random filler JUST to discover Wilred... I feel they were hinting at something there.

I'm pretty sure of its meaning, but it's not as exciting as everyone probably thinks. The short of it--we're making progress toward a new era.

Originally Posted by KarstenS

I'm mostly shure, the dragon attack also was part of the big plan.

Nothing is coincidence when Ascians are involved. Nothing. And if it causes chaos, the Ascians are likely involved. It's Always Ascians™


And as for the Scions... Let's just say I haven't lost any sleep.

If you can stop a bullet, you can stop a brick.

Originally Posted by lilirulu

Would Y'sholta really have had time to create a barrier for her and Thancred after the tunnel collapsed? And would she have been able to keep it up till someone found them?

Help might have been closer than you think--perhaps even tipped off that they needed it or would face certain death.

Originally Posted by BristolRuss

She also mentions that after shiz went down at the Rising Stones she ended up with Urianger at the Waking Sands. The last scene seems to indicate that he is in league with the Ascians, so maybe she is as well? Maybe they are both possessed like Thancred was? Speaking of the Waking Sands, she mentioned that Urianger put some kind of magic ward around it to change it's appearance. Has anybody been down there since then to see if it's changed? .

That hadn't crossed my mind, though Elidibus referred to Uriange as Archon which suggests he is Not possessed. Tataru on the other hand is just a normal little lalafell. They could possess her with no problems.


As for the waking sands.... After running around the major cities talking to everyone I could talk to.... I forgot to check!

This is what the NPCs in there had to say

For Urianger you have to select the option 'How fares the Realm' since he is also a quest NPC. I retract my former theory of Urianger not being possessed. Well Sort of. In the Cut scene his speech pattern was right but in the following text it has definitely changed. It is almost as if he answered Elidibus call and allowed himself to be possessed. This is my current theory.

Urianger: Within these walls thou shalt find sanctuary, for my glamours have hidden the Waking Sands from all who would do us harm.
Urianger: Never again will our brethren suffer at the hands of our enemies─this I swore to myself after the Garlean raid.
Urianger: ...Yet mayhap it were destined to come to pass. Mayhap this too is the will of Hydaelyn.


Slafswys: The world's gone mad indeed when its saviors're branded criminals. Me dear sister would be turnin' in her grave...

Radolf: It will take more than this to end the Scions! Warrior of Light─promise me you'll stand with us to the bitter end!

Arenvald: No matter how hopeless things seem, I will keep my chin up and press on. 'Tis the least I can do to honor the memory of my fallen comrades.