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  1. #111
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    So!
    About the Ascians in this patch...

    Lahabrea states that the "Ardor" was not his (Nabriales) to make.
    Now, IIRC, Lahabrea also referred to Bahamut's rampage as an "Ardor"...
    And the closest our characters get to that word was "Rejoining" (mentioned by Nabriales, which Minfilia assumes that what happened to the Isle of Val was his doing).
    I wonder...what if these "calamities" are ways for them to disrupt/unbalance the flow of Aether around the zones where they happen, so they can take advantage of them?
    They DID say that after each "Ardor", their god (Zodiark) grows stronger.
    The mention of some of them being of this world (from 2.50) and "star(s)" was also kind of ominous...as if they weren't from this world (or maybe from *any* world at all), and yet, they need everything they can get their hands on in order to revive their master.
    I dunno, this is raising even more questions than answers...
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    Last edited by Exodus-E; 04-02-2015 at 05:26 AM.

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    I unfortunately do believe that Nanamo is dead, but... There definitely is one way in specific that she could still be alive.


    The drug Somnus.

    Somnus is well-known in the back alleys of Ul'dah. When it is taken in over-abundance, the user falls into perpetual sleep, not unlike some kind of Sleeping Beauty. Considering the enemies' reluctance to show the corpse, it could be because she's sleeping. Teledji Adeledji may undoubtedly have wanted her dead, but Lolorito may have planned ahead and tried to switch things with Somnus to play into his own hands better.

    All of this said, the scene where Nanamo succumbs to the poisoning was brutal and is why I am not sure I believe she is simply overdosing on Somnus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Doesn't mean what you think. It's a pretty classic political move, actually, and absolutely doesn't change what we know really happened.
    So?Besides the news of her assassination was publicly. Also that ncp is one part of the order that mant the oath to protect her at all time. Most of them are uncorruptible, including him. No reason why he would lie to a PLD friend ( us ).
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    I don't think Nanamo is alive, the way the poison acted, it strangled her, I don't think it was a drug or something, she didn't collapse, she was trying to breath but couldn't.

    Also I think "Ardor" means "Calamity", maybe the terms umbral era have more meaning than we thought, maybe the balance really turn to umbral( Zodiark ) instead of the usual Astral ( Hydealyn ) and each Calamity makes Zodiark's return even closer and eventually would bring an eternal umbral era.
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    Just imagine what it's going to be like for those who level culinarian up to 50 AFTER this storyline. Awkward much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    So?Besides the news of her assassination was publicly. Also that ncp is one part of the order that mant the oath to protect her at all time. Most of them are uncorruptible, including him. No reason why he would lie to a PLD friend ( us ).
    Lying? What are you talking about? He's telling the truth as far as he knows: he's been informed she's taken ill and denied an audience. I see no reason why Lolorito would want the Sultansworn disbanded, so this is just one more ploy to keep things working in his favor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Lying? What are you talking about? He's telling the truth as far as he knows: he's been informed she's taken ill and denied an audience. I see no reason why Lolorito would want the Sultansworn disbanded, so this is just one more ploy to keep things working in his favor.
    Forget it, I just wanted to said that what Jenklyns and Pasashan said to us, dont make sense.
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    I think we are going to find out Pippin is a lost member of House Ul or house of Sil the True King/Return of the King story is too obviously on him and he looks almost like a male Namy
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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
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    Funny you mentioned that because:
    The First Umbral Era brought an end to the age of the gods, and there have been six such eras of calamity since the First Astral Era ushered in the age of man.

    Each of the Umbral catastrophes has, in turn, borne the characteristics of one of the six elements. With all the elements now represented, it was believed the current Astral era would last into eternity.

    But in the seventh verse of the Divine Chronicles, Mezaya Thousand Eyes prophesized a less fortunate fate. The "senary sun," or Sixth Astral Era, would indeed end, and the "septenary moon," or Seventh Umbral Era, would cast its shadow upon the land.
    --- http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/sp/world/story/

    My guess it that the 7th Umbral Era (or 13th cycle if you get rid of the astral/umbral categories) is the era for Zodiark to finally be released.
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    Nanamo is likely dead. The 1st-person camera view of her eyes fading to a tunnel of white light might cement that.

    The Scions in Ul'dah might be dead. Why would the Ascians look defeated in a sense... like they now had to uproot and create Chaos in the North, which is 'ripe'. Correct Jubs maybe, but when someone dies... do they not in some form release their own essense, or some of it, into the world in the form of Aether. The Whole fabric of Life woven together by 'aether' is a pretty strong standing FF tradition. If, say... five very powerful life essenses were put into the Aether stream of Eorzea recently... could explain the Ascians seeming annoyance at the end and need to try more 'ripe' grounds. And why Hyda was finally able to appear and speak to Minf... cause four souls just gave her new energy to do so... "No...." they're dead, blondie.
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