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  1. #91
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    I've seen people theorize that Raubahn may get a robotic arm from Cid, as well as act as a main character in the Dark Knight quests. SE has said they based DRK on Berserk, where the main character also loses an arm and get's a robotic one.


    I am not seeing how Tataru was being "suspicious"? She always tried thing outside of accounting, for example when the Scions needed cash she tried mining. She has to be a master manipulator if that is the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    I am not seeing how Tataru was being "suspicious"? She always tried thing outside of accounting, for example when the Scions needed cash she tried mining. She has to be a master manipulator if that is the case.
    She's in charge of balancing the books. She is also touted as a very proficient and investigative Accountant. Being in charge of regulating the flow of funds and verifying their sources for the Scions and the Braves, such a huge oversight is highly unlikely. Even if she missed them all being the same parent company, she would have noticed the large amount of funds going to the 1st and 3rd. Infact who would have earmarked those funds for the 1st and 3rd to begin with? Hmm? Why it would be the person in charge of finances of course and that person is Tataru.
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    Considering how she acts I do believe Tataru is hiding something and knowing more than she let's on.
    I don't think she is on the enemies side though, more like she knows things that for some reason she can't tell anybody about.
    Like as if she knew the WoL was in Great Danger and tried to learn how to fight to protect Minfilia instead, also how she wants to make Good Luck Charms for everyone as if she knew they would be in Mortal Danger.
    It would be weird for her to do things like this if she was a Traitor.
    As for the Books, I'm not 100% convinced she would know, she is doing the Scions Books but not necessarily the CB's, considering they have other People who do that (Like Wilred, poor Guy)
    If she knew it doesn't mean she is involved but maybe was forced to keep silent, Tataru is one of the older Members of the Scions and can't just "disappear" like Wilred.
    Though if she didn't knew the Plot it begs to question why she acted like she did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by treuhavik View Post
    Help might have been closer than you think--perhaps even tipped off that they needed it or would face certain death.
    Yeah, this is what I'm seeing for Minfilia. Hydaelyn's message basically being "They need you now or will surely perish. Send the Warrior of Light ahead." or something to that effect. Nothing about most of the Braves or Blades makes me think they were more than average soldiers (also, with names that similar, hindsight is asking me why I'm surprised). As such I don't doubt that the Scions held them off.

    As for Urianger, I'm taking the scene at face value. Elidibus somehow got word to Urianger asking for a meeting, and Urianger somehow got to the Ascian area to meet him (those are the two parts I'm least sure about, but the first one doesn't seem remarkable). I seriously doubt Urianger is now on team Shadowless. Specifically, his entrance was timed so that he would not see Lahabrea and meet only Elidibus. Meeting with the enemy is sometimes rather necessary, even if your own side would think you an enemy for doing so.

    Or to put it another way. . .The Warrior of Light is on Ishgard's side, right? Yet you've conversed with a dragon. And not just any dragon, but the Father of Dragons. Heck, he's following you around and sometimes chiming in on your plans. This hasn't changed your allegiance, any more than it's changed his.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Causality View Post
    She's in charge of balancing the books. She is also touted as a very proficient and investigative Accountant. Being in charge of regulating the flow of funds and verifying their sources for the Scions and the Braves, such a huge oversight is highly unlikely. Even if she missed them all being the same parent company, she would have noticed the large amount of funds going to the 1st and 3rd. Infact who would have earmarked those funds for the 1st and 3rd to begin with? Hmm? Why it would be the person in charge of finances of course and that person is Tataru.
    She was the bookkeeper for the scions. There's no hint that she did any bookkeeping for the Braves, which are a separate organization (even if they did have close ties).

    ...It's mostly that parting smile that made me kind of suspicious. I hope it was just SE trying to be ambiguous, though x.x
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    I've seen people theorize that Raubahn may get a robotic arm from Cid, as well as act as a main character in the Dark Knight quests. SE has said they based DRK on Berserk, where the main character also loses an arm and get's a robotic one.


    I am not seeing how Tataru was being "suspicious"? She always tried thing outside of accounting, for example when the Scions needed cash she tried mining. She has to be a master manipulator if that is the case.
    Also, the way the game engine handles facial expressions, especially on Lalafellin, can look....odd at times. The Hildibrand episodes even exploit this to comedic effect. So with Tataru, who's the token comic relief Scion, its hard to tell if it was intentional deviousness or just a quirk of the game engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    As for Urianger, I'm taking the scene at face value. Elidibus somehow got word to Urianger asking for a meeting, and Urianger somehow got to the Ascian area to meet him (those are the two parts I'm least sure about, but the first one doesn't seem remarkable). I seriously doubt Urianger is now on team Shadowless. Specifically, his entrance was timed so that he would not see Lahabrea and meet only Elidibus. Meeting with the enemy is sometimes rather necessary, even if your own side would think you an enemy for doing so..
    And just to add, Elidibus is, you know, the diplomat. Emissary. Etc. We, the warrriors of light, met with him. It will be interesting to see where this line goes though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Disappointed by Kan-e-Senna and Merlwyb just standing there doing nothing.
    I think most people are just looking at it the wrong way. Merlwyb is quite clearly infuriated by the situation, and would have more than likely gone guns blazing if not for the two likely outcomes:

    Assuming Lolorito didn't die in the struggle, he would have the means to potentially bypass any civil war and unify Ul'dah under Monetarist rule by making Limsa seem like it was behind or involved with with the WoL's perceived assassination attempt. This would not only justify war with Limsa, but also provide nigh-unlimited funding to restore a certain something.

    Assuming Lolorito died, Ul'dah now has a civil war and worse on its hands, as the Brass Blades/corrupt Crystal Braves are no longer on anyone's payroll, (as far as everyone who matters knows) the Sultana is dead, and the remaining Monetarists would be looking to either claim control themselves or look out for their own lives by any means necessary.

    Either of these possibilities significantly weaken the Eorzean Alliance, and that's ignoring the potential ramifications of Kan-e-Senna or Merlwyb herself dieing in the struggle. In this case it's better for the other GC leaders to bide their time and interfere from the shadows than risk all out war through direct intervention.
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    It's interesting that they are accusing the scions, namely Minfilia, of using forbidden magicks to manipulate the minds of people. While this is clearly false, I wonder if he was talking about the echo?

    It was said that echo users were viewed with suspicion/fear for some of the abilities they had. So I can see them using that info to scare people away from the Scions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar View Post
    Also, the way the game engine handles facial expressions, especially on Lalafellin, can look....odd at times. The Hildibrand episodes even exploit this to comedic effect. So with Tataru, who's the token comic relief Scion, its hard to tell if it was intentional deviousness or just a quirk of the game engine.
    I thought she looked sad, not devious.
    Devious looks are more a certain other Lalafells thing which looks utterly creepy ... luckily he is now half the Man he was before
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