Dedicated Thread for Patch 2.55 Story Discussion/Spoilers

[Ecks007]

so how do we use spoiler tags on here anyway

Um, if you read the first post it quite clearly tells you.

As for the story. I just finished it about an hour ago. Some parts left me disappointed.

1. I knew all along that someone was likely to be poisoned ever since the 2.5 trailer, my initial guess was that maybe it was going to be Rabauhn. However, once I saw the goblet use in the patch name sitting on Nanamo's table I knew what was going to happen. Throw in the fact that she tells you her plans to abjucate the throne right before she takes a drink. I mean, come on.. that was so obvious.

2. Ilberd's a douche. Even though he tells Rabauhn he killed Nanamo, we know he in fact did not. He just says that to piss off Rabauhn (which was quite successful). The real assassin would be the handmaiden who knowingly filled her cup with poisoned wine and ultimately works for Lolorito. That said, I did highly enjoy Rabauhn's rampage.

3. While I was glad to see Aledji get his just rewards served to him by Rabauhn, it's a little bothersome to know that even he was ultimately just a puppet for Lolorito.

4. While Lolorito comments that everything went as planned he still seemed rather unhappy about something.

5. As for the Scions, it's highly unlikely any of them actually were killed. That said, I want to know what in the seven hells Minfillia thought she was going to do? She has never been shown to have any power or abilities aside from The Echo, she's merely a spokesperson and a figurehead (not to mention, easy on the eyes). So what made her feel the need to stay behind to protect me, the godsdamned Warrior of Light? Even with her being able to suddenly hear Hydelean, which is another question I imagine we should have answered somewhere in Heavensward, what good is that going to do her?

6. Lets not be quick to cast Urianger to the firepits and call him a traitor. He was summoned for a talk with the Ascian Emissary, aka. The White Ascian. The Emissary has never been violent or agressive like his companions in black. Urianger always seeks knowledge and if the White Ascian can deliver that then ultimately it should be only a good thing for us Scions. Urianger was still referred to as Archon, which he has been. As far as I see it, he has not left our side just because he went to talk with the Emissary.

7. What was up with those looks from Tataru hmm? At first I thought there might be something to it, but given her reaction while she spoke with Alphinaud at the end it makes me wonder if perhaps maybe those previous looks were nothing more than simple affection/longing as she looked back at us. she does seem very innocent, but we'll see. So far there's been a high concentration of bad lalafell in the main story.

All in all, I enjoyed it, but felt as though it was not as epic an ending as I was expecting.

[Chimeric]

It seems to me like a bit of a cop-out that practically all of this gets hand-waved by the NPCs as being unbelievable to the general public, but then I went back and talked to all the guilds I'd maxed out. Each and every one of the guildmasters and GC officers (hadn't talked to any I didn't have 50's or full rank from) actually says to your face that the charges are unbelievable and that you have their full support, even down to Miounne, Baderon and Momodi.

Gotta admit, that was actually pretty heartening, but it makes me wonder why it's really necessary to seek asylum in Ishgard if every single combat, gathering and crafting guild is willing to protect me.

/notsurewhyspoilertextdoesn'tcount

[Kyomagi]

well here we go

First, i dont think Momoidi (sp) was in on it. I think she was being paranoid and trusted you to keep the bottle thinking it would be safe. That, or she has a reputation to uphold and asked you to take it to her thinking it would not get broken. I think she is innocent

I do not think the scions died, the second hydaelyn spoke to Minfillia, i knew they were fine.

Finally, speaking of hydaelyn, i get this funny feeling that she and tataru are linked somehow, not sure how, but they are

on a side note, i would find it funny if there was some uprising of lalafell and all of a sudden they are maked out as evil xD

[tjw]

/notsurewhyspoilertextdoesn'tcount

Think of the guilds as similar to unions. If the government decides to exile or arrest you for any reason, the work unions can't do much to really stop them.

[Gilthas]

I can't say that everything in the ending surprised me, but I certainly didn't expect what happened to Raubahn. Not sure I particularly like that the Scions are MIA for Heavensward or that Urianger looks like a traitor.

One thing is certain though, if SE wanted me to hate the traitors and look forward to the eventual comeuppance, they did a great job.

What "others" could he mean? We only saw Raubahn.

At one point during the cutscenes one of the traitor Braves mention that all Braves loyal to the Scions had been taken care of (can't remember if he implies they were captured or not). I imagine that Aliane at least is one of them if she wasn't outright killed.

[FallenArisen0990]

SE... You guys just gave me a finale that left a big scar on my heart. I never though I'll ever see all the characters I cared about, get screwed over hard. The fact that SE got me to feel sorry for Alph, after hating him since the start, you guys earned my rounds of applause. The emotions and feels is real.

[Pinkie_Pie]

Grrr, I the ending, the action, the major twists. *plays rains of castamere*

I'm glad that bastard Nanamo got cutdown by Rabauhn, second, I KNEW they wouldn't have the guts to change ul'dah, it would take too much time to do so and so much storytelling on forth so to make it from happening, they did a game of thrones kill off. Third, really, WE the warrior of light fought off primal's, ultima weapon, a FREAKING BIG DRAGON AND SO ON, and yet everyone babied us acting like we can't even handle a few guards. fighting guards would be a breeze compare to what we handled through all this storyline. The ending was a let down to be honest, SE pulled a game of thrones outta their pocket to leave a cliffhanger on us but I GUESS we *have* a reason to go north into ishgard. NOW my character will give up being a paladin and become a dark knight cause the world is more f'ed up then she could see. GOOD BYE PALADIN/WARRIOR, HELLO DARK KNIGHT, WIELDER OF DARKNESS.

[Mugiawara]

Who want's to see Yugiri again?

Just can't get over how beautiful she is.
Do not open this if you do not want to see how Yuigiri looks.

[Zottan]

Recycled 1.0 plot... no surprises... now for 3.0 are u going to open west schroud , other part of mor dhona and east zones of coerthas or that for 4.0??

Waiting for ¿new instances? The Fury's Gaze,Dusk Vigil and Dreaming Dragon.

[Airget]

Think of the guilds as similar to unions. If the government decides to exile or arrest you for any reason, the work unions can't do much to really stop them.

Syndicate>>>>Sultana>Raubahn>>>>>Grand Company>>>>>>>>Guild>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>People

I would say the above is the shorthanded version of the power struggle in Ul'dah, the Syndicate has the power but the Sultana was the one with all the political power, removing her from position and of course controlling the forces of the Brass Blades and the Crystal Braves gives the Syndicate a scary amount of power to work with. Even if people within the BB and CB and the guilds and the people believe in the hero there is this to consider.

100k, let's say that's the number of people in the Brass Blades and Crystal Braves, say 25k of them are corrupt, the one with power, even if 75k of them believe in you, don't believe in what they are doing, they have to follow the orders of their peers and act in their interest because they have their own lives to worry about. It's a harsh truth but it is something to remember, even though the CS doesn't show thousands of soldiers going after you the reality is that's how many there are, it just isn't always easy to max out the character limit and showcase such an effort in a situation like that.