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    It seems to me like a bit of a cop-out that practically all of this gets hand-waved by the NPCs as being unbelievable to the general public, but then I went back and talked to all the guilds I'd maxed out. Each and every one of the guildmasters and GC officers (hadn't talked to any I didn't have 50's or full rank from) actually says to your face that the charges are unbelievable and that you have their full support, even down to Miounne, Baderon and Momodi.

    Gotta admit, that was actually pretty heartening, but it makes me wonder why it's really necessary to seek asylum in Ishgard if every single combat, gathering and crafting guild is willing to protect me.


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    Kyan Ashton
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimeric View Post
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    Think of the guilds as similar to unions. If the government decides to exile or arrest you for any reason, the work unions can't do much to really stop them.
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    Airget Lamh
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjw View Post
    Think of the guilds as similar to unions. If the government decides to exile or arrest you for any reason, the work unions can't do much to really stop them.
    Syndicate>>>>Sultana>Raubahn>>>>>Grand Company>>>>>>>>Guild>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>People

    I would say the above is the shorthanded version of the power struggle in Ul'dah, the Syndicate has the power but the Sultana was the one with all the political power, removing her from position and of course controlling the forces of the Brass Blades and the Crystal Braves gives the Syndicate a scary amount of power to work with. Even if people within the BB and CB and the guilds and the people believe in the hero there is this to consider.

    100k, let's say that's the number of people in the Brass Blades and Crystal Braves, say 25k of them are corrupt, the one with power, even if 75k of them believe in you, don't believe in what they are doing, they have to follow the orders of their peers and act in their interest because they have their own lives to worry about. It's a harsh truth but it is something to remember, even though the CS doesn't show thousands of soldiers going after you the reality is that's how many there are, it just isn't always easy to max out the character limit and showcase such an effort in a situation like that.
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    Raeletta Delqit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimeric View Post
    It seems to me like a bit of a cop-out that practically all of this gets hand-waved by the NPCs as being unbelievable to the general public, but then I went back and talked to all the guilds I'd maxed out. Each and every one of the guildmasters and GC officers (hadn't talked to any I didn't have 50's or full rank from) actually says to your face that the charges are unbelievable and that you have their full support, even down to Miounne, Baderon and Momodi.

    Gotta admit, that was actually pretty heartening, but it makes me wonder why it's really necessary to seek asylum in Ishgard if every single combat, gathering and crafting guild is willing to protect me.


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    Even in other cities? I must investigate, I only checked those in Ul'dah. (The THM / BLM trainers didn't seem to know anything.)
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    Harlequin D'ranged
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raeletta View Post
    Even in other cities? I must investigate, I only checked those in Ul'dah. (The THM / BLM trainers didn't seem to know anything.)
    All over the place, as even the Brass Blades in Horizon speak of us as being outlaws. Fufulupa even goes so far as to sort of whisper to us that he was given no explanation. He was just told to detain any of the Scions. I'm now going to talk to EVERY npc I can. This has me very curious!
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    Last edited by solu9; 04-02-2015 at 12:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solu9 View Post
    All over the place, as even the Brass Blades in Horizon speak of us as being outlaws. I'm now going to talk to EVERY npc I can. This has me very curious!
    I must sleep, but I now have a task to do while I wait on the DF it seems when I wake up.

    Honestly, I should have thought about checking further afield after I realised MD npcs (btw, Rowena... Wow.) had altered dialogue.
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