the new trial is too hard

[Krindor]

I enjoyed the fight quite a bit, somewhat different to the regular tank and spank with a few mechanics. Though the group I ended up with also beat it on 2nd try and this was before people had finished writing/record guides. I guess it is just a matter of getting a good DF group, the trial itself isn't hard, not even close to it.

[DoctaruRavenbe]

my first couple of attempts we finally got it to 1% and you know what? I'm enjoying this trial immensely. I am frustrated cause I want to see more of the story but it is tempered with the fact that this fight is a good challenge. will it be easier come future updates? maybe. but for right now the group I am with might be able to get it done today.

[YakushiHinata]

The fight is just fine in difficulty I would say, only thing that would make it hard is people who don't know how to react or read what is going on.
I did spend a full instance timer the first time with a DF group and in the end we all knew what needed to be done but we ran out of time.
So before you go and wish it was easier, try instead looking at what the groups you were doing it with, what they were doing, or not doing, of course it gets harder if most of the groups runs around like headless chickens~

[Zfz]

jumping from a no brainer tank and spank, to something that require collaboration of full group, is an huge gap, and I think the Main Scenario needs help the player to learn that, with some progression.

Specifically with regards to interacting with gimmicks in a fight, the main scenario already does that, starting with CM and the Magiteck ride, way back in 2.0. Then in Leviathan there's the shield. Stone Vigil (Hard) makes you interact with cannons. After that the Keeper of the Lake also provide you with an activated shield.

Interacting with gimmicks should not be new to someone who is even able to enter this trial. The problem is too many people are used to face rolling content with their iLv 120~130 gear that they expect new content to be the same. People who have once climbed up to the top of the learning curve have forgotten the skills they learnt, relying on brute forcing everything, that is the real problem.

[Xenor]

and all the pfs are looking for people who beat it

What incentive is there to do it again once you beat it?

I joined a PF group last night and one shot it, it was my first time.

[Zfz]

What incentive is there to do it again once you beat it?

I joined a PF group last night and one shot it, it was my first time.

Absolutely none other than having fun. :3

As tank, there's no fun kiting the mobs. We tanks have been controlling mobs since Sastasha. I guess DPS gets more fun out of it pumping the canons...

[Freyah]

As other players have already pointed out, the fight overall is not hard at all. I spent the best part of my evening queuing up on df only to have the group vote abandon after a couple of tries.
This happened 7 times. >.<
Luckily for me, I found a good group on df and we got it done on our third attempt.

[Drasken]

I solo queued today and we downed it on the second try. I assessed the situation and on the second pull I told people what to do. Taking initiative on the cannons, telling people when to move and where to put the mobs. Smooth as butter. No prior knowledge. You just have to overcome diffusion of responsibility and give some direction.

[Fynlar]

Specifically with regards to interacting with gimmicks in a fight, the main scenario already does that, starting with CM and the Magiteck ride, way back in 2.0. Then in Leviathan there's the shield. Stone Vigil (Hard) makes you interact with cannons. After that the Keeper of the Lake also provide you with an activated shield.

Interacting with gimmicks should not be new to someone who is even able to enter this trial.

With maybe the exception of Vigil HM, guess which people generally don't get to bother with such things anymore because nobody ever slows the hell down and actually lets them learn how to use them?

[Hailia]

With maybe the exception of Vigil HM, guess which people generally don't get to bother with such things anymore because nobody ever slows the hell down and actually lets them learn how to use them?

This is the sad truth as people turned dungeons and trials into speed runs and no one understanding the mechanics because who needs mechanics I am over geared! This is the problem in which needs to be fixed other wise these same people are the ones that keep crying content is too hard, because they can speed run and faceroll it. Also expecting to get it first try no mistakes perfection is already bad enough in other parts of the game. Just my opinion on the situation and I hope it gets addressed otherwise everyone suffers in the end.