the new trial is too hard

[stanrir]

i got stuck here for a day or so and was so frustrated because my DF groups we mentally retarded or somthing. none of them would ever listen so we would have people not going to cannons or activating snares and harpoon guy would never go up to harpoons just attacking the boss and trying to burn down the adds >.>, but i finally madea PF group for it putting the search description "KNOW HOW TO LISTEN!" and TA-DA cleared on the first try

[Rath]

So I just tried this today, after reading some of the horror stories on here, by joining a "learning" party in PF. First thing when we entered someone said this to us, seemed like a macro since it popped up right away.
1.) MT grabs adds and pull them to the patch of pitch or in front of the feet if the dragon moves closer then then the pitch.
2.) 1 healer and smn on cannons. First shot place pitch mid-arena as far from you as possible. Then spam first shot on the adds/dragon when no adds. Run back to the next cannon when he targets yours for cleave. If you are at the wall, move to the side and DPS until it goes down then go to the next cannon.
3.) OT DPS until tower is available then go up and be ready for dragon slayer, shoot when the NPC tells you to or when it is over the red circle. Or when chained.
4.) Other DPS on boss
5.) when the snares are next to the cannons, cannon users activate them when the NPC says so, when the dragon uses the big rectangle AoE if you don't want to watch for the text.

We killed it just after the chains, before it took down the wall. We did not have a DPS lb and didn't use caster lb. Needless to say, this is not what I was expecting after this post. Now, I am expecting I may have gotten a very well-geared group, but every one of us except the guy that issued the instructions got the clear that fight. 3 of us had not even attempted the fight before. If DF is really that bad, PF seems to be the way to go.

[Grey_Cain]

The tanks have one job: Gather the adds and keep them at the front of the boss between his front legs.
The healers have one job: Heal.
Two dps have two jobs: Fire cannons at the adds and get snares during the rectangle aoe (Landwaster).
One dps has two jobs: DPS adds and get to the top of the tower when the first set of each pair of cannons goes down.
One dps has one-four jobs: DPS adds. Cover the position of any dps that dies.

When I was dps, I was usually on cannons, rarely tower.
Tanks rarely ever brought the adds within firing range.
The healers would get aggro from all their healing, stop healing, and run away from everyone including the tanks.
Sometimes the other cannon person would ignore every set of cannons after the first.
More often the other cannon person would ignore the snares so I had to do both.
The tower person either didn't go up the tower at all or fired before both snares were up.
When I was on tower duty the cannon people didn't do snares.
When I tanked, the OT stopped bothering to grab adds because he thought I was taking everything already.

However, with that same OT once we cleared up who was covering which side, we finally nailed it.
We brought adds to the front of the dragon.
The healers healed and didn't take aggro for too long at any given time.
The cannon people killed the adds and each activated their own snare.
The tower person activated missiles at the right times
The last dps LB3'd.

In short, it's a team effort. If anyone thinks they're getting past this by doing whatever they feel like, it isn't happening. Communicating and assigning duties, and making sure everyone knows how to and is doing their assigned job, is the key.

[Werhusky]

Went for 2 FC members yesterday 4/8 premade in DF... we oneshot... all you need is communication

[StrejdaTom]

The new trial is not too hard, the new trial is finally challenging enough. No more faceroll content maybe?

[sayafrost]

I managed to get it down in the DF yesterday, we had this division:

1. only one tank on adds
2. 1 dps (brd) and 1 tank on canons + snares
3. 2 blm on dragon all times and the nin took also towers
4. nin used LB on dragon when we had 3 lines

BUT we managed because people didn't leave - my main problem doing this in df was that when we logged in at least 2 people just left, so it was impossible to take it down till i got df where people didn't just leave (one dps left, and my friend from fc joined in progress)

[LalaRu]

The problem on this duty as that the dps have to do something other than pushing 123 buttons. That is all.

[Matrinka]

It took 3 DF parties for me to find a group that could easily down Steps of Faith. The first two groups failed because everyone wanted to do the fight as they've done everything else in the game - rush in and attack everything. No one wanted to take responsibility for any of the roles. Due to everyone just wanting to blindly attack, we lost.

The last group did something to make the fight a one-shot. We talked to each other. We divided up the roles. Everyone did exactly what they said they'd do at the start of the battle. Two DPS on cannons. One person to take care of the kill shot on the tower.

While I wanted to rage quit the first two times, since I'm basically a casual player who never went further than turn 4 and has only successfully beat Garuda ex (no other ex battles), I'm of the opinion that this fight is fine how it is. If I could do it, anyone can, if they're willing to actually listen and assume some responsibility.

[Laerune]

I just did the trail for the first time with 7 other newcomers, we failed the first time, but we after taking 10 minutes to discuss what we should do, we figured out a tactic and applied it. None of us went online to read, we just did a trail and error and it worked. It was easy and most of us had only ilvl110-120.

I think as always the issue is, people are not patient enough and dont want to work toghter as a team.